318 low-rpm performance ........... for the NEWBE
It isn't hate it just doesn't make sense to cite funds as a reason to not pick up a 340-360
That is BS, & you know it. Otherwise to me your just saying if you don’t have the money to pony up for a bigger engine, then you should t be playing with them, leave the game & don’t come back until you have money.
Rich boy attitude.
but then dump a bunch of money into a 318.
Who’s saying dump a bunch of money into a 318?
And some of us know in the end these guys would jump on a 340-360 when the right time and enough money permits.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh, there’s the rich boy tune again.
If anything it’s the 318 guys who are the haters haters of the truth.
So 318 guys hate us now? Off base, delusional.
Why dump x amount into a 318 for 300 horse when the same money and labor nets 400 out of a 360.
Because it’s not the same money when you don’t have a 360 to start with. I don’t care if the next Magnum at the yard is a $100.
I don't recall Mopar performance offering a Magnum 5.2 crate engine. The thing is yes I understand in Australia a 318 is what's available but lets not BS each other here in the states. No one here has a tried and true recipe for a 318 that is an affordable "340 conversion" But you all still try and discuss it ad nauseum.
True no 318 create engine, so what.
A 318 to 340 conversion? What are you talking about?
MoPar does offer a slew of tips to getting the 318 to perform.
UTG MI 318 would be a costly beast in machine work alone
The original idea that has been long discarded was to reuse the stock pistons and regrind the cam. So cost is out. So is your memory on it.
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and why isn't it done yet
Charlie is still messing around with the cylinder heads.
Not hate valid questions no one today knows anything more than 30-40 years ago
Not true, start turning stones over on the subject.
and lastly I say this if the Chrysler engineers could have gotten the performance out of the 318 they wouldn't have designed the 340.
Another bone headed statement. Start reading about the past again.
There simply is no performance conversion kit on the cheap for a 318...
nor for any other small block Chrysler.
you guys cant rewrite the facts
No one has done that here.
and call people haters because you don't like that.
I just like messing with AJ.
You guys are so cheap that you know what ? I watched 318 wr video on "degreeing a cam on the cheap..." Im like "come on dude buy a degree wheel dont come up with some BS and call it degreeing a cam. No offense to 318 WR but hokey hillbilly BS isnt the right way.
No, that was offensive.
Go to summit and buy the degree kit they arent that expensive and if you are constantly working on engines you need it. Yeah I know Im the hater. :)
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Logically, dollar for dollar vs labor, a 5.9 is the way to go.
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Even with the stock cam and relative LC, it should stand with a stock or mild built 340, given the same build on the rest of the car.
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Well I got off track but I agree, the logic minded 318 guy will eventually realize that performance with a 318 isn't impossible its just more logical the the 360 .
That’s never been the argument.
I agree that, a 318 will sound good with a cam but those down in the hole pistons and sub 4 inch bore leave much to be desired.
Not really, but I believe you believe that. Do you need an extra thinking cap?
Now someone will say and I've heard many times the bore don't mean nothing but Ill say it means this you cant use large valves and a high lift cam.
Bore size does mean something and more the merry, sure!
Otherwise…..
Incorrect again. Oh my! WOW!!!
A 2.08-1.60 valve set up equals 3.68, add in space between the valves, still smaller than a 3.91, 318 stock bore size.
Oh wait! That’s math! You can’t do math, never mind.
Carry on the rant of incompetency.
Second the heads the castings are smaller in stock heads and you cant port a 318 casting to 340-360 size ports you'd grind through.
What can you gat out of a ported 318 head? What if you installed the larger 1.88/1.60 valves? OH-wait, you said you can’t use larger valves. Never mind……:rolleyes:
You still need a decent crank and rotating assembly to go to 6 K and above.
Hugely wrong! Big time. You need a good valve train along with the camshaft.
My 318 was great on the street but it was a mid range up to 5- 5500 street car I'm not going to say it was a performance engine even though I had a cam headers and 4 barrel on an otherwise stock LA 318. My 340 is a different monster even at idle. You just know it runs and you feel the torque just rapping the throttle.
Ahhhh, nothing like a bigger engine. Glad your pockets are rep enough to afford one.