x-pipe and exit in front of rear tires?

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About 4 years ago Mopar Action did a Bold Beeper series on a Road Runner project car.

496 Barton motor, TTI 3 Inch pipes with an H-Pipe.
Made 435 hp at the tires.
They disconnected the center section at the headers and threw in the new TTI Nascar style X-Pipe and guess what happened??

HP up 24 to 459 and picked up 16ft/lbs of torque with a simple bolt in swap.

Read it and weep:
http://www.allpar.com/history/mopar/x-pipes.html
 
I am not trrying to be an a**

You may not be trying to come off as one, buttt your accellling in doing so.

Take it from a guy who gets this as well. Everything is in the wording. Since no one can accurately add tone of voice, sarcasim is most likely what is being added to what is read just via the delivery of words.

It runs on pump gas, Shady dells motor dynoed by Ryan 693@ 7200 this new motor 829@8000"]829@8000 this is through the exhaust in a street car. I have tried the X myself.

Do they drive these on the street everyday? Are they capable of doing this? Do they take there kids and wife on 50 mile one way rides for a show?

IF no is the answer to any of these questions, these cars are disqualifided.

As said above, your not making good comparo's between cars/engines.

neighbors camaro Frank soldridge PSI motorsports NMCA world record holder. This is the way we roll on the streets of Palmrton PA. It is a X brand but it dose'nt have an X pipe.

Does he drive it to get milk when they run low @ 11:00PM? If not, he is disqualifies.

I will try to get a video of my Duster on here I have no power add'ers. its a well built smallblock thanks to Barton and HTA.

So this is the car you drive to church and mom in laws and to work etc..... IF not, your car need not apply to this thread. How could it?

What I am saying none of our cars have X pipes. If they were better they would still be on ,they are not. They were a waste of money for performance.

What I have noticed is that each car/engine will like a certain exhaust for best power. Sometimes, a certain tone is wanted over this issue. Sometimes not.

I only look to NASCAR cars when they flip over and take a look at there exhaust....and I see an "X"!!!

Call up Barton see what he is running on his Street Hemi Darts and Cudas he sells. He dyno''s them and Guarranties 9's.

He may drive a 9sec car everyday to work, but we don't, do you?

The bottom line is I am not trying to piss in anyones ear. I only thought I was giving some wanted good advice. I am sure there are some on here that don't want to here they wasted their $$$ on their ride and will hate what I am saying. I can live with that. But it does'nt make me wrong.
Sentence by sentence,
yes you are, meaning it or not.
I'm sure you think so and hope you would do so and allways do so.
LOL, probably true, but for all?
Yes it does, application specific/owner specific


Thanks for the video's they were really cool.
 
Rumblefish please dont start the whole "whats a streetcar?" deal i thought you might have seen where that one leads before?

what is streetable is up to the owner,i know there is lots of 7-8-9second cars driven on the street that are more reliable than the average 10-11sec bracket car. i wouldnt mind driving a 7sec streetcar to work everyday if i ever build one and just have a wallet thick enough to pay for it.. i have even seen a dragster driving thru the drive thru at McD.
 
Exit in the rear 'behind the tires'

You could have them dump just bhind the tire but outward to the sides, but during idle time you may get the stink in your clothes.

ANY pin holes or floor opening with before axle dumping pipes...and you will have the stink after driving a mere 5 minutes....
 
Im staying out of the bicker party, but fwiw the X/H are supposed to equalize the pulses and pick up mid range torque.
How much could be lil or substantial.

I don't run one myself, I don't to have to cut it out when trans woes do or do not arise, an I don't want another leak point with having extra collectors to make them easlier removable.
 
Side exhaust kind of sound like an old John Deere 2 cylinder tractor.......................... Just my opinion.


I LIKED how my old sixpack sounded with side exit exhaust. I grew up in the country, and though we had a Farmall, I do know EXACTLY what a Deere sounds like, and side exhaust V8s do not. An yeah. It's your opinion

Hope you don't have a nice stereo, because you won't be able to hear much of it anyway. Make sure you have a big box of earplugs-you'll need them. Also a hearing aid down the road................. Just my opinion.

You obviously didn't spend any time in my car "in the day." When I first bought it, it had some obnoxiously loud Cycle packs on it, but with the windows up, it was hardly any louder than a stock rear exhaust--something I'd heard a lot of, since I just got rid of a 69 383 RR with headers and otherwise stock exhaust.

After I put the factory stock type HP mufflers on it, it became even quieter. Most of the time I drove that car, it had the driver's window down. In this case, it's NOT your opinion. You're simply mistaken

Thanks to a house fire, one of the very few photos of the old girl. About '73 or '74. Had a 340!! in it then

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Come on now Rumble.....Not a fair comparison either.
Dont see alot of Nascar's in the church parking lots on Sundays.
Maybe because their racing on Sundays ? ;)

Your right and it was intended so. ;)

Rumblefish please dont start the whole "whats a streetcar?" deal i thought you might have seen where that one leads before?
LOL, yes I will and for a reason, lets go back to the OE poster and his car and what is in general considered a street car, not what some of can stand or like/wish it to be.


what is streetable is up to the owner,i know there is lots of 7-8-9second cars driven on the street that are more reliable than the average 10-11sec bracket car.
That is a matter of opinion in a general sense, then again, I can't help if the slower car owner has a crappy build(er) or beeeeats the stones outta his car daily for 5 years.

i wouldnt mind driving a 7sec streetcar to work everyday if i ever build one and just have a wallet thick enough to pay for it.. i have even seen a dragster driving thru the drive thru at McD.

Dragsters? DRAGSTERS through MsD's... YEA! OOOOO-Kaaaaay.


Lets be sane about this and stay on topic.
 
You may not be trying to come off as one, buttt your accellling in doing so.

Take it from a guy who gets this as well. Everything is in the wording. Since no one can accurately add tone of voice, sarcasim is most likely what is being added to what is read just via the delivery of words.



Do they drive these on the street everyday? Are they capable of doing this? Do they take there kids and wife on 50 mile one way rides for a show?

IF no is the answer to any of these questions, these cars are disqualifided.

As said above, your not making good comparo's between cars/engines.



Does he drive it to get milk when they run low @ 11:00PM? If not, he is disqualifies.



So this is the car you drive to church and mom in laws and to work etc..... IF not, your car need not apply to this thread. How could it?



What I have noticed is that each car/engine will like a certain exhaust for best power. Sometimes, a certain tone is wanted over this issue. Sometimes not.

I only look to NASCAR cars when they flip over and take a look at there exhaust....and I see an "X"!!!



He may drive a 9sec car everyday to work, but we don't, do you?


Sentence by sentence,
yes you are, meaning it or not.
I'm sure you think so and hope you would do so and allways do so.
LOL, probably true, but for all?
Yes it does, application specific/owner specific


Thanks for the video's they were really cool.
Wow!! I was wandering what the problem with not being in agreement with your choice of an exhaust is. But after reading many of your post I see its just that you are always right. So you can say what ever you want if it makes you feel good go for it. Does being a staff member give you exempt from being polite. You intentionally used exsurps from different posts and put in your explaination of what I meant. Now I would like to ask you who is the trouble maker here . Its not me. I was just posting my beliefs whether you agree or not. If you don't agree type in what you find to be working for yourself. Why not just let it go. Or do you have to always be on top.
 
Wow!! I was wandering what the problem with not being in agreement with your choice of an exhaust is. But after reading many of your post I see its just that you are always right. So you can say what ever you want if it makes you feel good go for it. Does being a staff member give you exempt from being polite. You intentionally used exsurps from different posts and put in your explaination of what I meant. Now I would like to ask you who is the trouble maker here . Its not me. I was just posting my beliefs whether you agree or not. If you don't agree type in what you find to be working for yourself. Why not just let it go. Or do you have to always be on top.

you have a habit of not understanding, and having problems.
 
somebodies creditability just went up in smoke...

that statement is actualy true,however it was more of a showoff thing the same weekend as a big carshow with lots of cruising and a big burnoutcontest is held in västerås. i bet there is pics of it findable on google if i just reserch it to death..

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgdCwMPa5z4&feature=related"]YouTube - Dragster doing burnout at McDonalds Drive Thru[/ame]
thats the weekend.
 
Wow!! I was wandering what the problem with not being in agreement with your choice of an exhaust is.


If that is your choice of exhaust, fine and so be it, it is not a problem with me. But after reading below, your only starting in with me and manufaturing an issue.

Does being a staff member give you exempt from being polite.

Use the issue of "Being a staff memebr again" on me and I'll take full advantage of it.

You intentionally used exsurps from different posts and put in your explaination of what I meant.
And the problem is? It is not used to start an issue but to make mention.

Now I would like to ask you who is the trouble maker here . Its not me.
Actually, yes it is.

I was just posting my beliefs whether you agree or not. If you don't agree type in what you find to be working for yourself. Why not just let it go. Or do you have to always be on top.
I did and jumped back in with your fair warning, in which you ignored.

It's not about being on top. Given the job as MOD exempts me from little but allows me more. If getting rid of you is more, then that is the way it'll be. I'm not here to argue the manufactured topic at hand or muddy up this thread on this topic.

Furtherly, if you persist, you'll force me to take action. If you have an issue with the MODs job, take it upstairs. If theres anything else you wanna ***** about on this topic, PM me instead of here.

You have been forewarned.
 
that statement is actualy true,however it was more of a showoff thing the same weekend as a big carshow with lots of cruising and a big burnoutcontest is held in västerås. i bet there is pics of it findable on google if i just reserch it to death..

The darn thing didn't work for me.

This is not a street car.
 
Also one other thing........as far as exhaust exiting before the rear wheels......better check with your state inspection requirements........up here in the Northeast, unless the car came equipped from the factory with them I.E AAR,T/A, you must have full length exhaust on a passenger car......trucks can still have stacks as it exits aft of the cab. Just sayin.........
 
Also one other thing........as far as exhaust exiting before the rear wheels......better check with your state inspection requirements........up here in the Northeast, unless the car came equipped from the factory with them I.E AAR,T/A, you must have full length exhaust on a passenger car......trucks can still have stacks as it exits aft of the cab. Just sayin.........

doesn't matter in california, as long as it isnt open headers. :)
 
We just completed a side exhaust on my 71 Demon. We thought we do something a little different. The picture is not great but you can see that the exit is in front of the rear tire. The underneath picture shows it better. We used 3.5 pipe and the muffler is inside that pipe right in back of the flex piece that lets the motor move.
 

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We just completed a side exhaust on my 71 Demon. We thought we do something a little different. The picture is not great but you can see that the exit is in front of the rear tire. The underneath picture shows it better. We used 3.5 pipe and the muffler is inside that pipe right in back of the flex piece that lets the motor move.

Cool do you have a side picture?
 
If you cancel out the ad on the first picture, you can see the exhaust from the side.
 
If you cancel out the ad on the first picture, you can see the exhaust from the side.

ok got it... did you cut the under body seam weld to get it to hug the body tight like that?
 
No, it is just below it. We did have to make an exit for it through the frame connecters though.

It looks nice and tight against the under body.. I'm running 3" exhaust and my square tips are 10" long so I was planning on having to cut the seem weld to make it hug like urs.
 
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