Sully1190
Look. It's a Gold Duster.
that's because the question was the comparison of apples to oranges!
Or dollars to dollars.
that's because the question was the comparison of apples to oranges!
oh the good ole' days , its threads like this i wish Stroker was still here LMAO
Bill,
So exactly how are you helping the original poster again ?
Either help the original poster,or build a car that runs.
Until then all your hot air is...well hot air.
Bill Dedman I think I know your coming from now you can take a near stock /6 throw on a turbo and beat most V8 and have a pretty Kool ride for a reasonable amount of dollars, but your still comparing apples to oranges.
Or dollars to dollars.
you want dirt cheap >>>
73 duster slant six 3 speed car of which the slant six was pulled and tossed in a ditch
318/727 off CL for 400 bucks
cheap *** summit headers 120 bucks (optional) though you would need the correct manifolds
conversion mounts 80 bucks
88 lebaron radiator and shroud 40 bucks
performer intake , just because 75 bucks (optional)
1406 edelbrock carb just because 60 bucks(optional)
HEI ignition 50 bucks just because(optional)
drive shaft shortened ONLY because im using a 727 otherwise the slant shaft works with the V8 904 65 bucks
existing wiring, throttle cable and trans mounts
NOTHING ELSE was touched...nothing
i have just under a grand for the entire deal, including all new hoses, belt and fresh fluids.
this car is daily driven going on 2 years strong and it has taken a beating. it stops great on the drums, and ive tested them. for what it is , this little car boogies on down the road and is fast for what it is...bone stock 67 318 with a 4 barrel and headers.
bang for the buck? this is it. that ole slant could never dream of running this good especially for the money.
i did this by myself in 8 hours ....running
no, im not bashing the 6 cylinder
I'd hate to think it was all just for naught...:banghead:
That's pretty cheap all right, butr how much bang did you get for your buck (how fast is it?)
This guy put a Buick turbo (175$ at a junkard) added a 4-bbl l carb and a Clifford intake and ran 12.95 @ 104 with what is basically, the engine you threw away.
Is your car faster than that?
You're talking alot of cylinder pressure & heat build up. Also the fabrication time needed to install a turbo has to be considered. Induction piping & intercooler(another cost left out by the pro-/6 posters), custom exhaust, lubrication plumbing, & you wouldn't put all that into it without upgrading the rod & main bolts/ studs would you? A rebuild would have to be a given also. Forged pistons? Carb & intake manifold? You're not thinking about blowing it all through a little 1 bbl are you?
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Pretty Much !!!!!!
Yeah, you're probably right; for some folks, it's a "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" kind of deal... LOL!
To each his own...
The idea of building a slant 6 engine to produce the same horsepower as a 360 at whatever level, stock 360HP or a 500HP engine, and be cost effective in comparison is unrealistic. The slant 6 engine, while beffy & durable indeed in stock trim, will certainly show signs of failure or required upgrading & maintenance to survuive on 20# boost. You're talking alot of cylinder pressure & heat build up. Also the fabrication time needed to install a turbo has to be considered. Induction piping & intercooler(another cost left out by the pro-/6 posters), custom exhaust, lubrication plumbing, & you wouldn't put all that into it without upgrading the rod & main bolts/ studs would you? A rebuild would have to be a given also. Forged pistons? Carb & intake manifold? You're not thinking about blowing it all through a little 1 bbl are you?
The OP didn't express the desire to build a 500HP 360, but since the comparisions were made as to cost effectiveness, you certainly can build a stock bottom end 360 to produce 500HP & a set of iron heads w/ mild porting W/ an inatke, carb & headers that can easily be street driven within a reasonable budget. Probably using a bunch of used parts from this site or ebay to lower cost more. Trans & rear upgrades would probably be on the list of upgrades for both builds so thats a wash.
To each his own. I appreciate the guys that take a 1 off combo & build it to run well. Unlike the majority of posters here I also like the guys that build the Hondas & other imports to run good #s. It's all hot rodding. But as we ALL know it almost always costs you 2X as much to do something as you originally think. IMO the parts & techniques are there for the V8 build over the six from a time & money standpoint.
Why do I have this feeling that the original poster is looking at Nova's on Craigslist ?
It's all good Bill,believe it or not, I'm pulling for you.
I don't want you to think I am a /6 hater. If I was,I would have yanked the slant out of my 65,and thrown it in a ditch long ago.Actually,if my car wasn't
1-23 built,it would be in a ditch.lol But that's besides the point. I have built a fun
Slant car,with pretty impressive performance for what it is. With the 4spd it's a hoot,and I'm happy just the way it sits.
But if we are comparing apples to apples, my 360 car is a whole different beast.
I'll just leave it at that.
Why do I have this feeling that the original poster is looking at Nova's on Craigslist ?
To the OP'er you should of called the tread "how to get V8 power out of /6" since no ones given you detailed mods, like which cam, header, carb, turbo etc..... Too use.
Bill, I think you are kinda making my point here for me as to the cost vs power of the boosted 6 vs 360 to get to 500HP when looking at the build here. I'm not saying it can't be done & I'm certainly not knocking anybody who wants to go the turbo 6 cyl route, but there is a lot of time & parts not all that common when compared to the V8 swap. You can easily build a 360 to make 500hp using cast pistons & a set of ported "J" heads & bolt on parts.
If it's purely based on economical factors I believe the advantage has to go to the V8 swap. Even in a build that goes for 300hp. Something does have to be said for a slant 6 & the wow factor.
Again, I think it's really cool that guys take the road less traveled & make a slant 6 run it *** off! Thnking outside the box is what makes it better for all.
Rock on my friend!
I don't think the OP'er was looking for a drag car so instead of turbo i think a blower would be a better alternative would make your car feel like a V8 right from idle.