RHD '67 Barracuda Rag Top.

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So, I just put a deposit on a very rare RHD 1967 Convertible Barracuda. One of Five supposedly bought new in the UK. Ive seen one other and it ended back in the US with its English Owner.

These UK Barracuda's where basically Formula S cars with 273's or 318's in '68.

Its just a stripped down shell but its a piece of history.
 
trigger_andy said:
So, I just put a deposit on a very rare RHD 1967 Convertible Barracuda. One of Five supposedly bought new in the UK. Ive seen one other and it ended back in the US with its English Owner.

These UK Barracuda's where basically Formula S cars with 273's or 318's in '68.

Its just a stripped down shell but its a piece of history.
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I've never even seen or heard of one. Do you have any pictures?
 
Unfortunately its literally just the shell. The seller is a Scrap Metal man and sometimes gets his hands on odd-balls he's asked to come and get rid off. Supposedly the owner died before he could restore it. He stripped it down and this is as far as he got. Unfortunately the boxes of parts has been lost, most likely thrown away. :(

Restoring it is gonna be an issue, might have to import another one from the US at some point to swap everything over.

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jbc426 said:
I've never even seen or heard of one. Do you have any pictures?
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Ive only even seen one more. I think its now in the States with its British owner now though. I'll have to try track him down through the UK club.
 
Looks like somebody swapped a 69 nose onto it. Being it's a 67 the important as heck vin tag is on the door jamb, and not the dash frame that's been lost. 67 RHD barracudas used a 67 RHD valiant dash frame and Valiant gage panel if that helps you any. If you can find a beat RHD valiant you can get all that and he wiper linkages, heater box etc. All the sheetmetal and trim is the same except for any RHD specific parts. 67-69 dart convertible windshield trim is the same as well. I'd ask the junk guy you got it from for the address where it came from and go there. Ask them if they have the other pieces to the car. You might be surprised. They may have boxes of stuff from it. trigger_andy where are you located. If your in Australia or NZ I bet some of the RHD specific parts off a Valiant down under will probably fit and work.
 
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moparmat2000 said:
Looks like somebody swapped a 69 nose onto it. Being it's a 67 the important as heck vin tag is on the door jamb, and not the dash frame that's been lost. 67 RHD barracudas used a 67 RHD valiant dash frame and Valiant gage panel if that helps you any. If you can find a beat RHD valiant you can get all that and he wiper linkages, heater box etc. All the sheetmetal and trim is the same except for any RHD specific parts. 67-69 dart convertible windshield trim is the same as well. I'd ask the junk guy you got it from for the address where it came from and go there. Ask them if they have the other pieces to the car. You might be surprised. They may have boxes of stuff from it. trigger_andy where are you located. If your in Australia or NZ I bet some of the RHD specific parts off a Valiant down under will probably fit and work.
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Thats good news regarding the Vin Tag then! As there is no paperwork with the car.

Ok,more good info regarding Valiant parts, hopefully over the next few years I'll manage to cobble the bits I'll need together. :D

Its the Junk Man who's also delivering it, so hopefully I'll get a lead on the precious owner and maybe track down the missing parts, I might get lucky.

Thanks agin.
 
Front fenders in your pics are 69 as well as upper header. This includes the hood latch and upper latch striker plate You will run into issues fitting 67 grilles into the 69 fenders. The good news is 67 fenders, latches, and upper striker plates are slightly more plentiful, and 69 fenders , hood latches, grilles header panels, and striker plates are harder to find making them worth more to somebody needing them. If your able to track down that stuff from a prev owner, you can sure use the more rare 69 sheetmetal parts as barter fodder to get proper 67 parts.

To expand that search, 68 fenders, striker, latch, hood, and header panels will all fit 67. Welding up certain trim holes. And parking light holes , then moving the holes where they need to be for 67.

Front and rear bumpers are same PN front and rear all 3 years. Bumper brackets are the same for all 3 years, lower front valance and front lic plate bracket is same for all 3 years 67-69

Hope this helps
Matt
 
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moparmat2000 said:
Front fenders in your pics are 69 as well as upper header. This includes the hood latch and upper latch striker plate You will run into issues fitting 67 grilles into the 69 fenders. The good news is 67 fenders, latches, and upper striker plates are slightly more plentiful, and 69 fenders , hood latches, grilles header panels, and striker plates are harder to find making them worth more to somebody needing them.
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It maybe is a '69? The seller said its '67 but Im not actually sure how he's figured that out? I dont have the car yet and will be getting it delivered on Tuesday.
 
67 the Vin tag will be in the door jam by the hinges 68 and 69 the Vin tag will be on the dashboard frame on the top not sure exactly where RHD export cars it will be but in US spec cars it'll be on the left hand side
 
trigger_andy said:
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It maybe is a '69? The seller said its '67 but Im not actually sure how he's figured that out? I dont have the car yet and will be getting it delivered on Tuesday.
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The side markers are specific to each year,67,68 & 69. That car appears to have limited rust in the usual areas, but some significant body filler on the driver's side rear quarter panel. Great bones for a restoration. Thanks for posting it.
 
Easy way to tell on the years from the side. The bolt on nose and fenders is definitely 69. See pix below

67 no fender lighting or reflector on each end

68 round fender markers wired with lights. No reflector. Amber in front red in rear

69 rectangle fender reflector only no light. inset into diecast bezels in stamped recesses In the fenders and rear panels. Amber in front, red in the rear.
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If the rear quarters are smooth looking from the inside of the trunk with no visible repairs done to fill any holes, and a vin tag on the door jamb at the door hinge mounting area, then yes it's a 67 with a 69 front clip. Also look at the position of the door lock knob holes. 69 the knob holes are about 12" forward from the back edge of the door. 67,68 the holes are at the back edge of the door. Doors could be replaced easily too, so it they are a different color under the current paint than the turquoise that the OEM paint then they were prob off something else.

I am betting that the 69 valiant 2 door hardtop you have in Australia is a VH right? It will have a heater box, and all the mechanical under dash stuff prob all the same including wiper linkages brake and gas pedals and such. The windshield I believe is the same as a hardtop valiant, so are the vent wing window assemblies.

All the rest of the vert glass I think is the same as a dart convertible, but I could be wrong.
 
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Also because these were originally manufactured in the US as RHD export to the UK they may have used a US spec valiant gage cluster, with metric speedometer. The Rallye dash cluster wouldent work, and they werent going to rework it to fit on a low volume car. Not sure but i think the cluster used was reversed US spec V200 deluxe cluster. I believe you can use an aussie valiant dash frame and mod it to fit a US spec cluster in it. See pic below 67 RHD barracuda vert

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moparmat2000 said:
If the rear quarters are smooth looking from the inside of the trunk with no visible repairs done to fill any holes, and a vin tag on the door jamb at the door hinge mounting area, then yes it's a 67 with a 69 front clip. Also look at the position of the door lock knob holes. 69 the knob holes are about 12" forward from the back edge of the door. 67,68 the holes are at the back edge of the door. Doors could be replaced easily too, so it they are a different color under the current paint than the turquoise that the OEM paint then they were prob off something else.

I am betting that the 69 valiant 2 door hardtop you have in Australia is a VH right? It will have a heater box, and all the mechanical under dash stuff prob all the same including wiper linkages brake and gas pedals and such. The windshield I believe is the same as a hardtop valiant, so are the vent wing window assemblies.

All the rest of the vert glass I think is the same as a dart convertible, but I could be wrong.
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Sorry, forgot about the Valiant question. Im from and live in Scotland. WE had 200 Valiant Chargers sold here in the UK when they where new. Yes, my Charger is a VH, 1972. I think 1969 was VG, maybe VF? But yes, its basically a Dart. Unusual to find anyone in the US with any knowledge of them, most folk have never even heard of them.

I had another one but was rotten and sold it on. But a Charger is too good to part out these days, I'll keep my eyes peeled for more Aussie or South African Vals and maybe but them if the price is right.
 
moparmat2000 said:
Also because these were originally manufactured in the US as RHD export to the UK they may have used a US spec valiant gage cluster, with metric speedometer. The Rallye dash cluster wouldent work, and they werent going to rework it to fit on a low volume car. Not sure but i think the cluster used was reversed US spec V200 deluxe cluster. I believe you can use an aussie valiant dash frame and mod it to fit a US spec cluster in it. See pic below 67 RHD barracuda vert

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I wonder if thats Andy Neals Barracuda Convertible?

Thanks for the info on the Dash frame, I really need to start looking for a Donor car. :D
 
Faxon reprints a bunch of the assembly drawings for 67-9 A-bodies in reduced form as a book. I don't normally suggest purchasing from Faxon, but this has a lot of the details you will find helpful in putting this together.
 
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Heres some other into I found. Vin tag will be on the right

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Cool! Thanks for sharing that. Interesting stuff.

I had a 'RHD '68 Fastback years ago, it was a 318 from the Factory. I let a girl drive it and it got smashed up. :( I parted out what I could and got back more for it than I paid for it. :D It also had 3.23 gears but an open diff. Had 4 pot Kelsey Hayes calipers etc. Funnily enough the Headrests where quite saught after, as where the door cards as they had a map pocket. :D
 
Mattax said:
Faxon reprints a bunch of the assembly drawings for 67-9 A-bodies in reduced form as a book. I don't normally suggest purchasing from Faxon, but this has a lot of the details you will find helpful in putting this together.
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Ok great, Ill do that. :) I'll google this company now.
 
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