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dartfreak75

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This is exactly why I have a hard time believing anything I read or see. And this is why i ask alot of questions to the ones who have done these things and not just read about them. I know for a fact that the thrust plate has the slot facing inward when I took it apart. I have three books I reference one says to face the plate the correct way the other book clearly had it in backwards. Had I not already known or didnt own the other book I probably would have put on backwards. I wonder how many people have incorrectly assembled this part based on this particular book?

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What books??? I use Factory Shop Manuals, never really had that issue. I really don't bother with Haynes, etc.
*P.S. - it IS under the performance tip.... LOL.. ya never know :D
 
What books??? I use Factory Shop Manuals, never really had that issue. I really don't bother with Haynes, etc.
*P.S. - it IS under the performance tip.... LOL.. ya never know :D
The one on the top is (correct) is how to hotrod a small block mopar by Larry Shepherd the middle (incorrect) is how to rebuild the small block mopar by William Burt the bottom photo is mine
 
Well, I can say I totally disagree with sending more oil to the chain..(drilled soft-plug)
The main bearing does a pretty good job on it's own, that's why the deflector is used behind the sprocket..
 
Well, I can say I totally disagree with sending more oil to the chain..(drilled soft-plug)
The main bearing does a pretty good job on it's own, that's why the deflector is used behind the sprocket..
I have read and heard a lot of guys on here say to do it and it seems to make more sence to use the plug that the bolt to me.
 
Yup. It's ok to have a healthy skepticism of some of the stuff the factory did... especially with the environment we put them in.
We don't use nylon cam gears, 2 Bbls, or lazy cam profiles. that oil hole might be ok for a cab, but...
 
Well, I can say I totally disagree with sending more oil to the chain..(drilled soft-plug)
The main bearing does a pretty good job on it's own, that's why the deflector is used behind the sprocket..
Thank you for speaking truth.
I've never understood why people want more leaks in their 'as they themselves say' "already inadequate oiling system"..
Oil just showers out of the bearings everywhere. 'Oil control' is what they should focus on.lol
 
The slot should be inside to help lubricate the front cam journal that rubs on it. It's a oiling slot. The cam gear usually has it's own slots to oil the outside.
 
Well, I can say I totally disagree with sending more oil to the chain..(drilled soft-plug)
The main bearing does a pretty good job on it's own, that's why the deflector is used behind the sprocket..
Thank you for speaking truth.
I've never understood why people want more leaks in their 'as they themselves say' "already inadequate oiling system"..
Oil just showers out of the bearings everywhere. 'Oil control' is what they should focus on.lol
I wish you guys would have voiced your opinion before i went and already drilled it! Haha i was a bit skeptical about doing it but literally everyone on here told me too and it was in the book so i did it. I dont think it will hurt nothing.
 
The slot should be inside to help lubricate the front cam journal that rubs on it. It's a oiling slot. The cam gear usually has it's own slots to oil the outside.
Yea i knew luckily i just cant believe it printed in the book backwards
 
I wish you guys would have voiced your opinion before i went and already drilled it! Haha i was a bit skeptical about doing it but literally everyone on here told me too and it was in the book so i did it. I dont think it will hurt nothing.

Soft plugs are cheap.. maybe use a early model thrust plate too. (no holes over plugs)
run a sheet metal screw into the hole and use 2 heal bars to get that one out.
 
I wish you guys would have voiced your opinion before i went and already drilled it! Haha i was a bit skeptical about doing it but literally everyone on here told me too and it was in the book so i did it. I dont think it will hurt nothing.


No, you did it correctly. The factory system is designed to get by warranty, and be the most basic, simple and cheap way to do it.

That crap about enough oil in the timing cover, the stupid bolt with the hole in it, even the drip tab are all pretty much useless.
 
Thank you for speaking truth.
I've never understood why people want more leaks in their 'as they themselves say' "already inadequate oiling system"..
Oil just showers out of the bearings everywhere. 'Oil control' is what they should focus on.lol

I never have liked drilling the oil galley plugs. AT ALL. I do however endorse drilling a hole in the center of that bottom bolt on the passenger's side of the thrust plate, though. That's kinda "free" oil because it just drips out of the intake valley under no pressure.
 
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I wish you guys would have voiced your opinion before i went and already drilled it! Haha i was a bit skeptical about doing it but literally everyone on here told me too and it was in the book so i did it. I dont think it will hurt nothing.

Well think of this......how many small blocks have you ever seen with burnt up timing chains from lack of oil? I've not seen any. I will say I have seen quite a few I KNOW were virgin tear downs that did have that little bolt with the hole drilled through it, so evidently Chrysler did think that was a good idea. It's cheap and it doesn't cause a pressure loss since it just drips out of the intake valley. Nothing wrong with doing that.
 
Soft plugs are cheap.. maybe use a early model thrust plate too. (no holes over plugs)
run a sheet metal screw into the hole and use 2 heal bars to get that one out.
That thrust plate didn't have the holes i put them there for the oil to the timing chain "mod" i was gonna do a hole in each plug like the book says but decided to just do one. Thats why there is a hole in both sides. Im gonna leave it there i dont think it will hurt to have extra oil there are alot of ppl doing it.
 
That thrust plate didn't have the holes i put them there for the oil to the timing chain "mod" i was gonna do a hole in each plug like the book says but decided to just do one. Thats why there is a hole in both sides. Im gonna leave it there i dont think it will hurt to have extra oil there are alot of ppl doing it.

It's a small hole. It won't hurt a thing.
 
I drilled mine as well but only on one side. No issues and I am sure plenty of oil on the chain.
 
Well think of this......how many small blocks have you ever seen with burnt up timing chains from lack of oil? I've not seen any. I will say I have seen quite a few I KNOW were virgin tear downs that did have that little bolt with the hole drilled through it, so evidently Chrysler did think that was a good idea. It's cheap and it doesn't cause a pressure loss since it just drips out of the intake valley. Nothing wrong with doing that.
I was thinking the opposite way. I didnt like the idea of leaving the bolt out. And i didnt think that drilling the hole would provide enough oil to make a difference, but the pressurized galley would skirt a far amount of oil on the chain and it falls right back into the pan so im not "losing" any oil. But that was just my thinking. Im sure there has been thousands of engines ran all three ways without any issues
 
I was thinking the opposite way. I didnt like the idea of leaving the bolt out. And i didnt think that drilling the hole would provide enough oil to make a difference, but the pressurized galley would skirt a far amount of oil on the chain and it falls right back into the pan so im not "losing" any oil. But that was just my thinking. Im sure there has been thousands of engines ran all three ways without any issues

What I meant by losing oil was losing pressure. The drips from the hole in the bolt would be plenty. But as mentioned, even without the hole through the bolt or the hole in the galley plug, the chain gets adequate oiling.
 
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