70-76 Demon,Dart sport,Duster Pictorial History

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Yeah, right. Everybody should be able to post their opinion without "comments" from others. Everybody except me, apparently. When I post a comment, it's viewed as "condemnation" of others. Whatever. I've been rude to no one. My only "crime" is having a different view than the self-appointed experts on this board. I'm done with it...
 
I hope you understand my frustration:

* You say you have this wealth of info. Yet you never quote or post any of it to try and support your position.

* You wait until others do the work to find info, and there has been a wealth of circumstantial evidence. Then you rationalize/interpret the info to your benefit.

* You say there is no obvious info linking '72 and '73 scoops/holes. Yet you never replied if there was any obvious info linking 1970 and 1971 scoops/holes. I'm pretty sure you said that they did go together, at least in '71.

* Then you make a totally incorrect assessment that the '72 and '73 OEM replacement parts books contain parts (grommets) that someone might use on their cars even though those parts did not come on them!


Just because some things aren't "in your face" obvious, doesn't mean that they don't exist. One can usually come to an accurate conclusion based on enough corroborating and circumstantial evidence.

I hope you eventually find the undisputed answer.
 
Unsolicited testimonial from a person claiming to have purchased a new '73 Dart Sport indicating "it came from the factory with a functioning (Black) snorkel hood scoop".

http://www.carsurvey.org/review_105744.html


Does anyone have any old magazine road test articles on new '72 Demons or '73 Dart Sports where they might mention the scoop/holes or show pics of the underside of the hood?
 
MY 73 dart sport came from factory with the "Sport Hood" option, which is basically a fiberglass "twin scoop" bolted to a standard hood with two 3" -3.5" diameter holes in it to allow air to enter the engine compartment .

I know of two other 1973 dart sport 340 cars that I worked on in the eighties that were also equipped the same way (I worked on them for friends that owned them).

If you like I can take a few pictures of the underside of my hood showing these features and post it for you.

Bob

PS: some chevy guys down at track told me the factory holes in my hood were too small to help out my engine, but I ran out a few times while driving into 20+ mph headwind (which indicates to me that the hood scoop helps me make more power, even if I don't need it!)
 
Thanks Summitar,

I'm pretty familiar with the scoops and holes. I'm just trying to get as much info and personal statements posted here about the '72 Demon and '73 Dart Sport scoop/hole combo because at least a few people don't believe they were available together. After the previous debate with DartSportDude, I'm a little surprised the thread didn't get locked or us getting a warning. Luckily the info is intact and I'm just trying to reinforce the info posted by 7demon2 and others. But feel free to post any additional info to back up your statements.

The holes are a bit larger than you mentioned. But a little bit of outside air directed into the engine compartment can't hurt!
 
a 72 dart hood will fit a 71-72 demon and a 70 -72 dart.

73 duster can use a hood from a 73-76 duster or vailiant

as far as 1973 dusters are concerned:
I am not sure if they came with a Hood Scoop (sport hood) option like the dart sports. I know the IHRA allows it in Crate motor stock and I have seen a few on the street like that but I am not sure if factory made any that way??

Bob
 
The scoop on Dusters is a popular add-on and it looks like it belongs there. But they were not available with them from the factory.

Louvers? Nope.

A Demon hood might bolt on and latch on a Duster because they both overhang the grille. But it probably wouldn't look right.

But whole front clips seem to interchange between A-bodies without too much trouble!
 
As a 1976 Duster owner, I've discovered a few differences in my vehicle versus other A-bodys...

Fender on p/side is unique (antenna hole is different than all others).
Inside rear view mirror is unique (mounted on the windshield, not the roof).
Kick panel on d/side is unique (first year for foot activated e-brake).
Dash circuit board is unique (ammeter gets it's reading through the board, not red/black wires).
Green interior is unique shade.
Semi-unique upper door hinge (75/76 are different than all others.)
Amber turn signal lenses are unique.

I'll add more later. I'm sure I've forgotten a couple.

Great thread.
 
Ok, so after reading that "discussion" toward the end....you guys keep saying this scoop/hood wasn't offered on 74' dart sports?....Or was I reading that wrong.......I ask because the 74' I just brought home has the sport hood with chrysler part no.3672605 scoop and blackout stripe treatment on it....
 
it was gone in 74....you have the correct parts so somewhere along the line it was installed.
 
It would be listed in the data plate right?...and just to add, I have 2 3 to 3.5 inch holes in it and I scuffed the hood and it's the same color as the car all the way through.
 
really? interesting and it is a 74? if so never seen that before...everything i have ever seen before on a 74 dart sport says the scoops were gone after the 73 model. got to be pretty rare i would say to see this...
 
build date of 11/26/1973.....with the fender tag can i figure out the axle ratio? also It's a given that since the car was a 360/flite that it has a 8 1/4 right?
 
that is a pretty nice car. i do stand corrected! i went to look at another reference i have that does list it as haveing the scoop available for 74! axel ratio will be on the build sheet, and on the rear if the tag is still there. standart ratio is 2.94 , optional is a 3.21 or 3.55 sure grip. 8 1/4 yes...
 
just an update here. today i found out that the dual snorkel scoop was available on the 74 dart sport as well. so to correct this i am posting this for everyone to see. the scoop was gone after 74 not 73!
 
Under the front seat is most common, I found 2 in my car 1 under the front seat the other under the rear seat.
 
Whew, so there's still a chance I can find one, my interior was damn near gutted. they left all the seats but pulled the cluster, ran off with the console, shifter, and no jams......but i got a ashtray!
 
i have also found one taped above the glove box liner before as well.... also under the carpet sometimes too
 
As a 1976 Duster owner, I've discovered a few differences in my vehicle versus other A-bodys...

*snip*
Amber turn signal lenses are unique.

When were amber front grille lenses added? At the start of '76 production, or were they a running change?

I'd have to check if they're original, but this '76 Duster has clear lenses:

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Here's what's left of another '75(?) with the bodyline strips shown on page one:

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When were amber front grille lenses added? At the start of '76 production, or were they a running change?

I'd have to check if they're original, but this '76 Duster has clear lenses.

My '76 has a 10-75 build date, so theoretically, yours should have them too. I could see clear ones getting onto a very early car (depleting the '75 stuff), but not vice versa.

Make sure the car in your pic has the correct parts and is indeed a '76 (build date would indicate so). I can't see the inside rear view mirror or the antenna hole to be sure.

I looked again, it appears the grille at one time may have been installed in a Valiant. The Duster grilles I've seen were painted black on the horizontal surface in front of the signal lenses. All Valiants I've seen are silver, like the one in your pic.
 
I looked again, it appears the grille at one time may have been installed in a Valiant. The Dusters grilles I've seen were painted black on the horizontal surface in front of the signal lenses. All Valiants I've seen are silver, like the one in your pic.

That could very well be. This car has some after market fog lamps mounted to the radiator support, so the grille may have been changed at one point.
 
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