Some questions....

[MB43]

Oh man, a bunch of stuff...

First, when I pulled the starter out it looks like the end of it broke off. It's one of those Mopar mini-starters. Should I be concerned? You can see it in the attached image.

Next, when I unbolted the driveshaft from the rear end, the u joint came apart... Both caps came off, little bits of stuff all over the place. So I assume I should replace it. How do I know which one I need? It's an 8-1/4 rear, if that makes any difference.

When I pull the driveshaft out of the transmission, am I gonna wind up with tranny fluid all over the floor?

The bolts that came off my old converter are too small for my new converter. Any idea what size bolts I need for a PTC converter for a 727?

When I was unbolting the tranny from the motor, I dropped 2 - 9/16" wrenches into the tranny tunnel. So now I've got two wrenches sitting on top of the tranny, and I can't reach them. That's not a problem, just a rant. The tranny's coming out anyway, so I'll get them when it comes out. It just pissed me off, twice.

 

[onehellofadart]

First, when I pulled the starter out it looks like the end of it broke off. It's one of those Mopar mini-starters. Should I be concerned? You can see it in the attached image.

Usually happens when initial timing is too advanced. Is it hard cranking?
Didn't you also have a problem with the starter loosening up on you?

Next, when I unbolted the driveshaft from the rear end, the u joint came apart... Both caps came off, little bits of stuff all over the place. So I assume I should replace it. How do I know which one I need? It's an 8-1/4 rear, if that makes any difference.

I've seen it here to measure the id of the clamps holding the universal caps while still on the car.

When I pull the driveshaft out of the transmission, am I gonna wind up with tranny fluid all over the floor?

Yes some. It will definately pour out more if you tilt the rear end of the tranny down. You have to plug it.

The bolts that came off my old converter are too small for my new converter. Any idea what size bolts I need for a PTC converter for a 727?

:dontknow: Andrews Trans might be able to tell you or Jegs tech
might have that answer.

 

[MB43]

First, when I pulled the starter out it looks like the end of it broke off. It's one of those Mopar mini-starters. Should I be concerned? You can see it in the attached image.

Usually happens when initial timing is too advanced. Is it hard cranking?
Didn't you also have a problem with the starter loosening up on you?

Yeah, I had that problem at the beginning of last season. I fixed that by changing the starter bolts. Should I be worried about the starter now or just put it back in?

Next, when I unbolted the driveshaft from the rear end, the u joint came apart... Both caps came off, little bits of stuff all over the place. So I assume I should replace it. How do I know which one I need? It's an 8-1/4 rear, if that makes any difference.

I've seen it here to measure the id of the clamps holding the universal caps while still on the car.

Measure one clamp or across them? And what will the result tell me?

When I pull the driveshaft out of the transmission, am I gonna wind up with tranny fluid all over the floor?

Yes some. It will definately pour out more if you tilt the rear end of the tranny down. You have to plug it.

Ok.

The bolts that came off my old converter are too small for my new converter. Any idea what size bolts I need for a PTC converter for a 727?

:dontknow: Andrews Trans might be able to tell you or Jegs tech
might have that answer.

I PM'd John Cope (who I bought the converter from) on MoparStyle, but haven't heard from him yet. I'll call him in the morning, I guess.

 

[Mopower71]

The converter bolts are probably 7/16" then you'll need a new flex plate. Just went thru it with my ATI converter.

I use an old driveshaft yoke, and slide it into the tailshaft, and use some zip ties to hold it in. The only fluid I had leak was from where the lines were taken off. Easy fix there would be to cap them with a rubber hose and a bolt in thend of the hose, slipped over the fitting.

 

[onehellofadart]

Mikel is the nose cone on the starter broken or the housing it bolts too?

If its the housing It might be weak and you could get road crap in there.
But should be ok for now. Where are the pcs?

Auto parts store should have the universal for the style rear.
Since yoou have to replace it just remove it and take it with you.
If your ordering it measure the od of the cap and the width end
to end of caps on universal and ask tech before ordering.

 

[MB43]

The converter bolts are probably 7/16" then you'll need a new flex plate. Just went thru it with my ATI converter.

I think the bolts I have now are 7/16... They might be 5/16, though. I've got a B&M flexplate with many different holes in it. But the holes in the converter look pretty large, I'm gonna have to take a good look at it to see what they are.

I use an old driveshaft yoke, and slide it into the tailshaft, and use some zip ties to hold it in. The only fluid I had leak was from where the lines were taken off. Easy fix there would be to cap them with a rubber hose and a bolt in thend of the hose, slipped over the fitting.

I don't have an old yoke laying around. I guess I'll just have to be careful with it to make sure it stays level.

 

[MB43]

Mikel is the nose cone on the starter broken or the housing it bolts too?

If its the housing It might be weak and you could get road crap in there.
But should be ok for now. Where are the pcs?

It was the nose on the starter. The gear looks ok, it's just the case on the starter. The broken-off piece came out when I pulled the starter out.

Auto parts store should have the universal for the style rear.
Since yoou have to replace it just remove it and take it with you.
If your ordering it measure the od of the cap and the width end
to end of caps on universal and ask tech before ordering.

Ok, good. I guess I'll pull it out and take it with me over to AutoZone. The front one looks to be ok, it's just the rear one. That's the one that gets taken apart all the time, so I guess it just had enough and gave up. ;-)

 

[onehellofadart]

Duct tape it. :mrgreen:
As far as the universal if one went the other is going.

The nose cone broke off :shock: again poss too much initial timing.
Use this one to do what you have to do for now but
I would order another starter.

 

[Mopower71]

I use an old driveshaft yoke, and slide it into the tailshaft, and use some zip ties to hold it in. The only fluid I had leak was from where the lines were taken off. Easy fix there would be to cap them with a rubber hose and a bolt in thend of the hose, slipped over the fitting.

I don't have an old yoke laying around. I guess I'll just have to be careful with it to make sure it stays level.

You could just leave the driveshaft in. You don't have to worry about the rear u-joint falling apart now :jocolor:

 

[MB43]

You could just leave the driveshaft in. You don't have to worry about the rear u-joint falling apart now :jocolor:

Can I change the u-joint with the driveshaft still in the car? I thought it had to be pressed in & out?

 

[green67cuda]

I changed mine with it still in the car
takes a little more effort, with limited room, but it's still not difficult....i was able to do it by puting a socket on one cap and hammering it, while holding the shaft with my other hand....just takes longer

also...i didn't have any fluid from my tailshaft when i DID take the shaft out....

 

[sickt7cuda]

When I pull the driveshaft out of the transmission, am I gonna wind up with tranny fluid all over the floor?

Everytime I ever pulled a trans, I ended up with fluid all over the place. I've found that unless you have the car up on a lift using a transmission jack, it's usually smarter to drop the pan so you don't have to deal with the mess.

 

[MB43]

When I pull the driveshaft out of the transmission, am I gonna wind up with tranny fluid all over the floor?

Everytime I ever pulled a trans, I ended up with fluid all over the place. I've found that unless you have the car up on a lift using a transmission jack, it's usually smarter to drop the pan so you don't have to deal with the mess.

Ok, I'm good with that. I might as well, since I'm sure it's time to change the fluid anyway.

 

[AdamR]

I have a extra slip yoke I stick in the tranny so I dont pour fluid all over from the tail shaft.

Mikel you should see what my starter looks like. Its crack in half.