Pypes exhaust

swinger 367 said
i ordered a set for my dart shortly after they raised the prices, which they have raised again btw. if you dry fit the system together on the garage floor you will find that the tail pipes are about 24 inches apart, the gas tank is 28 in. wide, and the frame rails where you would mount the pipes to are 34 in. apart. if you put the pipes where they need to be and then mount the mufflers you can't put on the X pipe due to the mufflers being splayed at an angle / \.
i called their customer install line to find out what needs to be done and they told me that i need two people to install the system. (oh i see, two people can magically bend 2.5 in stainless tubing, where only one can't) they also pointed me to the installation gallery where there is a 69 dart with their system. the pics show a very nice professional job with almost every one of their components altered to make it fit. they even bent the X pipe to make the mufflers fit right.
if you are thinking that this system is a simple bolt on and go job you should think again.
i'm trying to decide between taking the X pipe to a shop and have it bent or cutting the X open prying it apart and welding it back up. oh, and the front half of the X doesn't land between the humps in the crossmember nor line up with hedman headers, even more work up front.
wish me luck!

I resurrected this old thread because I spent the last 2 days trying to make a Pypes 2-1/2" SS system fit my 68 Cuda. Swinger367 is exactly right on with his statements. Oh yeah, I did have a 2nd guy helping me and I can guarantee you 2 normal guys cannot stretch the rear pipes of the X pipe enough to get the mufflers far enough apart to get the tail pipes in. Heck we had to use a porta power to stretch it enough to clear the yoke on the rearend (I realize when the car is on the ground the yoke is no where near the muffs but when you jack it up the rearend drops down to where the yoke is dead center between the muffs and I want things to clear at all times). I'm calling Pypes Monday to see what they say. Right now I'm guessing I'll end up taking it to the muffler shop and have them take off the X pipe and put an S bend in each head pipe right before the mufflers to move them out a couple inches in each side so the tail pipes can be installed.

duster340 said
not saying you are wrong im not that kind of guy but i do work with exhaust all day long and there is basicly two options i can se especialy after looking at pics on pypes website
1. you got the wrong pipes
2. you got the wrong mufflers (seems real odd to me that they use mufflers with inlets/oulet offset/offset when stock mopars use mufflers that are offset/center)
a real long stretch would be X pipe backwards when puting system togheter on the floor but doesnt seem likely to me since most of them are using the same angles both front and back..
good you noticed this before trying to instal atleast!
second alternative doesnt seem to far of when i think of the aproximate distance missing betwen the tailpipes
most of these systems are just made to fit transmissioncrossmember and back since headers are a nighmare fore someone trying to create a complete exhaust kit since all headers end at diferent locations:(

The X is marked which way it goes on. The pics Swinger 367 posted shows it correctly assembled. I noticed the muffs being offset/offset vs. stock muffs that are offset/center but the stock type (offset/center) would even be worse as the tailpipes are too close together now.