Hi Captian, all I can say is 80% of members would more then likely perfer TTI's. They are $$$. But after reading "all" the past threads over the past month the majority of members would want or approve of these headers. The good fit, tie rod ends don't go throw header pipes, their very long lasting, you will no longer get road rash from bottoming out no longer have the chance of harming your heads; and the degree of different coatings and options. :lol: Iv'e smashed a few other ones too often and should have had TTI's to begin with. :wav: