thanks haven't totally decided to go this route yet, basically because the wheel with a decent backspacing is only offered in a 18"x9" which limits my tire width to around 11" section width and since I have almost 16" inches of wheel well space, I feel I'm not getting the most bang for my buck with this combo. I mean going to all the trouble to install full tubs and then give up over 4" of space does not seem the smartest route. I'm seriously considering the Billet specialties Apex G in 18"x10" for the rear and 17" for the front like yours Tin, really like Riddler's boze combo also but my support structure feels diffrently...Anyway still looking...