Chrysler no longer owned by US Gov.

attack me all you want for this but, how about we focus on our old mopars that are true mopars and tell the new style chryslers and dodges to f off? bringing back the dart or cuda isnt gonna help, or make up for all f**k ups. a 4dr charger? its just a 300c with a name change epic fail, the new challenger ok so it has the right design body wise, but if its supposed to get such fantatsic mpgs in a v8 why are all the ones ive seen only v6s? and where do you think a new cuda will come from? theyll either A. just remove two headlights off the challenger and have a different paint design, badges and yaddi yadda yadda, or just change the grill and paint designs. i was so excited to see new power wagons, but no 12 miles a Fing gallon are you kidding me! my 78 macho swb 4x4 gets 16! with an exhaust leak! and wats with only offering a 4door truck? how about a swb with a roll bar and such? again epic fail. chryslers trying so hard to recapture the memories of the lates 60s and early 70s that theyre falling over themselves constantly. and fyi to the guys that are building darts valiants cudas chargers, challys, coronets, superbees. you guys and gals are the ones recapturing the memories of that era. so you guys keep building your toys and restoring your dads cars and lets agree that chrysler is basically dead and should just quit trying to retro cars cause those college designers are so horrible at it. and have no idea wat a real mopar is

They're selling a bunch of those 4 door Chargers so what's wrong with that? The first and second gen Chargers were designed with a specific market segment in mind and the current Charger is the evolution of that line of thinking...a full size performance sedan. The difference? Most people want a 4 door nowadays. You and I don't want 4 doors. But we are the exceptions and not the rule. For every V8, you hope to see at least 10 or more V6's to go along with it. That's what the car companies need to do to stay profitable. They need to sell an exponential amount of lower cost, base models to reduce their manufacturing and operating costs.

As for your Power Wagon getting 16MPG? I'm pretty sure the new Power Wagon 1) Has more power, 2) Has more interior room + 4 full doors, 3) is more rugged and weighs more. Don't get me wrong. The 70's era Power Wagons are my personal favorites, but technology-wise it doesn't stack up to today's plush, power everything, navi equipped luxo rides.

Personally, I think it's a piss-poor attitude to say "let Chrysler die". I'm thinking they could've done better with the Charger and Challenger formula myself, but future thinking is going to be about lighter cars. Which Fiat specializes in. Eventually, that philosophy will have to make it's way to the Charger and Challenger.