while you and i do not see eye to eye sometimes, but i have always drooled over that vert!. i have wanted it. but i am sure you know that cash is always better than a trade, no matter how good the trade is. that is the bind i was in with that black duster. and i build these cars, and i do know that i could not have one looking that good for that price, even with all the haggling and trading i do. mike, good luck with sale, and prayers are on the way. plot