$450 chinese turbo and 600 plus HP(food 4 thought)

Louis, please don't think as it was an attack of sorts as that is not how it was meant. Just thinking out loud. I agree for recreational type of use the knock offs are great. Just thinking that .4 is .4 in terms of go power. High 8's would be great, but low that .4 would put you into mid-low 8's, which for a "mild mannered" pump gas turbo car is even just a bit more impressive....

I don't take it like that Doug, we are just discussing stuff here. I am very interested myself on how my combination will respond, just a little excited to find out is all, getting close.