Who should I buy a 727 or 904 from?

John at CRT said
No sir I am not stoned. If Joe has no core charge, why is it listed on his web site? Check it for your self, I am sure by Monday, it will be removed. http://www.gotranzact.com/

I do know that Joe prices are less than mine, I would be able to charge less if I did transmission in my back yard garage like Joe does. Google Earth his address and see for yourself. Here is the address 503 N. Arthur Dr.Indianapolis, IN 46280-1331

I run a business in a shop with over head, I have payroll, I have business insurance, I have to pay Fed, State and Local Taxes, I have to pay a Inventory tax, hell the and dam OSHA posters I have to have hanging in my shop cost 50 bucks. Joe doing what he does in his back yard garage, does not see the overhead I do. When I was younger, I did start out in my garage at home, But that is where I stated, not where I ended up.

And thats ok, But if you think, your getting the same or more of a trans for less money, then my friend your very wrong. On every trans I offer, I list a complete list of components that come in each transmission as listed on my web site and in my printed catalogs.

Check Joes web site, he has very little listed, and so there is no confusion, I build every transmission. Not one transmission from my store has ever been built my anybody but me.

If you think Joes makes ALL his parts in house, your wrong again. Last weekend, I was at the Indy trade show, I seen Joe, we talked a little bit. Just bla bla bla here and there.
But I also talked to Rick Allison from A&A, and he tells me that from time to time Joes buys parts from A&A, Now is that "In House" to you?

There are parts I offer from A&A, TCS, B&M, Alto, and others, But I also make my own parts. When I sell a part from lets says A&A, its listed as a A&A. You can see that by looking at my web site. www.CopeRacingTrans.com

In 1994, I did buy 3 count them 3 trans brakes from Joes, and I never bought anything elce from him since, So if you think Joe is selling parts to other big name transmission shops, your wrong again, and if all this info comes from Joe, well you have been duked.

Look, I dont know you, and I hope your happy with what you bought, same with USCG CHARGER, I am not looking for a dog fight here, But when I see posting that a flat out untrue, I need to speak up.

PS, Tell Joe Mama, thanks for the Biz, Joes brother bought parts from me this year, and last year, and he runs CRT stickers on his race car.

I have to agree with this, unless you really know WTF you're looking at you don't know CRT's trans is over priced.

Rick (A&A trans) built me a trans with all the bells and whistles and light stuff and the 1st externally adj built 727, at that time i paid over 3500, lightened stuff, all kinds of things i have never heard of before in a trans. . .

That trans is used in a heavy car over 800hp on other adjustments it can see 1500hp that trans is used for drag and road racing.

I spent over 3500 10 years ago and never once had any issue, now guess how many times i spent less than that with other people altogether, with other people i spent over a total of 25,000 on broken transmissions with bs excuses, not one but many, you know how f'king tiring it gets to make a pass or a A lap and the trans is junk AGAIN....

So i spent 3500 plus and not a single issue in 10 years.

See MSP does some stuff for the killer torque monster (now everyone copies his parts) and never again been under that for any reason.

So i make the big HAPPY payment to those guys for the ability to not see how quick i can become at taking transmissions out..

Sounds like John at CRT is like me, i like how from a picture he was able to deduct the stupidity, maybe you don't see it, but that paint is going to end up somewhere...

AND something i tell ALL MY CUSTOMERS paint is something you use to hide things. . .

HEMI-ITIS said
Summit>>>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-10280/

Marty,I'm surprised you don't use anybody local for your trans:violent1:
I bought a PRO TORQUE converter because he's here on the Island and my trans guy is here also.I prefer to deal local when I can,the last time I had to mail order is when I bought 2 SV1 carbs:happy1:

I can tell you a story from each builder TWICE or more. . . .then i gave another local builder a chance again after everyone swore up and down the best this and that, so being that it's been more than 15 years since i have used one locally and guess who's going to be taking a transmission out again with less than 1500 miles on it.... and this thing is not any of my big power maker toys, and it started going south after a few play dates. . . .i can quick myself in the balls

Never, NEVER ever again. . . .

I use local builders for my machine work and motor stuff, i do my own shafts and diffs, suspension and other perf work.

But transmissions i have blown up everyones from brooklyn to selden twice, all the big names between brooklyn and selden, forget the thousands wasted its my time wasted under the cars that really pisses me off. . .

My own brother has a trans issue, he says "Marty my trans went!, i said Mikey call Rick or Martin" he didn't went with a local guy...

He wound up spending more than he would have if he went with Rick or Martin.... But he has been without his vehicle for more than 40 days altogether with all the mishaps and china **** being used and other issues and in and out, in and out....

So i said "Mikey WTF did i tell you to do????? he said "I know i thought this price was much cheaper and he was close"
I said "his price was not cheaper, you're over 4800 with this bs now and made the thing slower listening to there stupid **** and putting in that fat heavy billet TC"