Pro Touring on a budget
[ame="http://youtu.be/lcUVMLdkJaM"]before sound deadener[/ame]
vid explains it all. unfortunately, the mic on the video camera I was using really isn't that great, so you can't really grasp how loud it is. that's just at 25 mph. At 40, the drone from the mufflers is so ungodly loud that conversations are held by shouting. I wish I had been able to take it out on the road to show you, but it's not insured for driving, just sitting and having things fall on it so I only had one take possible. As for the grunting, you try driving a car with manual steering and a foot in diameter steering wheel with one hand after 6 months of power steering.