You and I know that, but you wouldn't know that talkin to the sales guy,...He's lookin for sumthin that he doesn't have to tweak as much, He ain't lookin to compete with anything, he just wants a toy that he can go on a trip with and not get beat by a ricer while tryin to get onna highway, and not take out a loan for a tank of gas,....and 25 g's for entry level??? I wish I had that kinda scratch when I was that young, (a long long time ago)....but we spotted a nice 74 Dart Sport on the way home, kinda peaked his interest...