thanks Rick, i saw that one too, seems to be a lot of deeper pans but i'd like to stick with a regular depth one. if chrysler made this special gasket, you'd think they'd have another one that followed the pan lines, the dealers are selling this one to cover all 727's apparently! i made sure that my pan was dead flat when i installed it, and the only place that it leaked was where the gasket went straight and the sealing ridge was off the pan! and my pan is the factory one that came with it. thanks Gerry