Feeling about suicide

bigdummy, I read this thread earlier today and frankly it took me a couple beers until I felt comfortable responding. The issue with the people you know commiting suicide isn't about you, their friends or their family. It's about them. I have spent my life battling depression. It's not a matter of "just get over it". It's not a matter of "just be a man about it" (my dad's famous words). I'm lucky, though I have thought about suicide and a few timew formulated a plan I have never tried to carry anything out. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It's taken me years to understand that. I have also had friends who have taken their own lives. It sucks, to say the least. Rather than condemn your friend, please try to consider the anguish this man was going through. Whether you understand it or not, the man was in anguish. All the friends and family in the world cannot break through mental illness. Please rethink how you feel about your friend.