who here hates yard work, and other **** that annoys me, just venting

I'm just going to build a huge garage in a couple years that takes up most of the grass area in the back yard. Will cut down my mowing time a whole lot!

About the daughter... maybe I should bite my tongue and not say anything, but if she's going to get paid to do a job, she can do it right. That crap isn't going to work (or shouldn't) in the "real" world when she gets a "real" job, but to me, this sounds like a perfect educational opportunity. Miss a bunch of spots and streaks? Do it right or don't get paid.

Beat you to it. Built one in my back yard years ago right where i could never get grass to grow anyways. 27' deep x.31' wide. 837 sq feet. Took up a lot of mowing area. Prefer to pave over the front yard then glue down astro turf. Always green, never needs mowed, never needs water, never gets weeds. Problem solved, oh and you can park your car on it without leaving ruts

As far as my daughter goes, she dont mow the lawn anymore. It needs done, i dont say a word, i just pull the mower out n do it myself. She only gets an allowance based on chores she does. There is a value placed on every chore. Do it get payed, dont do it dont get payed. Its not our fault if she has no money to go to the mall. She has to work to get payed. No work no pay. When she bitches about not having any money we remind her about all the chores around the house that need to be done. We.dont wait forever tho, if she doesnt do them, either her little sisters do if its an age appropriate job, and they get payed , or my wife and i do the jobs ourselves.

Trying to give her the education no work = no pay. Already knows the free ride stops at 18. Get a job, and if living in my home u will pay rent. Alreafy told her enjoy your free cell phone, because she will have to pay for her own phone at 18 as well. Already told her i will not support an adult child.