There is a small little hill not to far form me.....would pay to watch someone try to tow a car up it with a 2 + ton vehicle with a / in it......my Duramax with a 4" exhaust, programmer and air intake kit has to work to pull a car up it.....Folks can what you want, but here in the real world you need torque to pull things... My truck, when I had it dynoed right after I bought it, puts out a touch over 600 foot pounds of torque... does the / even get into the 3 digit zone when it comes to torque? Torque moves things, not wishful thinking....