3G Hemi vs LSx vs Ford Mod Motor - which is the 'best'? And which to put in mopar?
Where you're at now is trying to argue that the hemi is not inferior, despite conceding everything other than the heads to the LS/coyote engine.
My stance has been the same from the very beginning. The hemi head is superior to the LSx head. It has not changed, so you saying 'where you're at now" doesn't apply - it's been the same stance the entire time.
which is a rather minimal difference.
I'll take that as a concession on your part that the hemi head is indeed superior to the LSx head, even if only minimally.
As for the cost of fitment, that's not a good argument either. The most costly aspect of that valiant are the headers and that oil pan. Otherwise its pretty straight forward. LS1's stuffed into miatas/240sx's are more complicated.
It's probably cheaper to put an LSx into a Miata or 240sx or rx7 than it is to put one in a mopar A body. Why? Because someone sells the parts to do it.
Here is exactly what I said:
"It's cheaper to put a Hemi in a Mopar body vs either of the other two. If you fabricate your own swap parts, or you find 'bolt in' shelf parts, that makes this a moot point. "
To spell it out further for you:
An LSx swap into an A body will need:
-engine mounts
-oil pan
-headers
Three options for these parts:
Fabricate them yourself (time intensive, low $$)
Pay someone to Fabricate them (minimal time, high $$$$)
Find something that fits off the shelf (potentially time intensive, medium $$$, probably still cheaper than shelf hemi swap parts)
Please explain to me how the cost of the swap parts is not a factor in the cost of putting an LSx in a Mopar A body? Until someone finds or produces shelf parts that put an LSx in a mopar A body, then the swap cost (time + money) will more often than not be higher than that of putting a hemi in.
Is this your best argument for why you think the 3G hemi is not inferior??
It's the only argument that is needed. A given engine's potential is limited by the heads. Thank you for conceding the hemi heads are superior to the LSx heads.
and still be under the price of a 5.7 3G.
I know you haven't bought a 3G hemi or an LSx motor, but have you truly priced them to see what you could get each for? I'd be curious to see what you can buy each for in your area.