OK heres a car related update, swapped out the crash box gears to install street gears (sorry there gone to another member). First time to open up an 833, it's not too bad. Thinking of powder coating the case but that seems crazy since I won't be PCing the engine block. It's hard to define the line from building a nice car to a trailer queen. Once you start making stuff nice , well then maybe this should be nice too. Before you know it the whole car is dipped in gold or whatever....