Well never say never , been trying to get a pair of 15x8 sbp steelies for a while now , called National Mopartsd yesterday , they quoted 155 a wheel plus tax and shipping then said they would call back with the total , no call back yesterday so I called them this morning and again said he would call me right back with a total , waited a couple of hours and no call so screw em I called Hortons and they said 159 plus about 20 -25 bucks for shipping plus tax , unbelievable , like 200 a wheel 400 for the pair , sooooo I broke down and called Summit where I knew the exact same wheels are 93.94 each plus FEDEX ground 74.29 and tax and duty 22.40 for a total of 284.63 us or @310 Cdn I guess even when Fedex tries to double down on the tax and duty or add some BS brokerage to it I will still be at or under 400 bucks a wheel but at least they have them in stock and will ship them today - sometimes you can't win with this stuff , lube helps .