yeah I tried to make it work but I'm a buyer not a shopper and I told him Thursday " this a sale not a quote call me right back with the total and I'll give you the card # " same thing again this morning , but no go with the three hour time difference he closes at 2pm my time so no call back for 2 days is too much , deals done Summit is on PST and closed the deal at 2:10 this afternoon ,It sucks not being able to make this happen with Nigel but at plus 60 bucks + tax and shipping a wheel difference in price I won't lose any sleep over his loss .