I wasn't offering. That OD is going behind my Hemi. I was merely stating that to my knowledge, the 3.09 wasn't offered in a standard 4 speed in the years you specified. I read the article. I think Rick is mistaken. To my knowledge, all of the 4 speeds from the 75 on up era were over drive units. That's the point I was trying to make. I'll put it this way, if there was a non OD 4 speed made in that era, I've never seen one, and I have seen a lot of them. they would have to be rare to say the least.