MRL Mild 440

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Here is the box. Doesn't look like HEI to me, but.......... It works!
 

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I would need to know the lifter bore spacing, but if its a .904 bore and a straight link bar, they should work. Email me some good pics of the bores. mrlperf340@gmail.com


FBO is the company that makes this little guy right here. http://www.4secondsflat.com/Ignition.html

I'll see if I can find some. It's completely built now. I was thinking maybe upgrading later on down the road. Herbert Performance offers these if that helps.

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But they don't have pressurized rollers. I'll look and see if I have a good picture of the block without lifters in it.
 
Those look just like the SBM lifter, so ours might fit. Man, beware of them, I have seen some bad failures, tiny little rivet holding on the link bars.
 
What advantage do you see oiling thru the pushrods? I havent given that any thought..

I changed the adjusters on the Hughes rockers from Ball style to cup style for 2 reasons.

First, they don't get enough oil to the cup on the pushrod and they tend to burn up pushrods and adjusters. We just had a BIG issue with that. Have any of you seen the tops of your Cup style pushrods turn brown or blue??? LACK OF OIL! Period! This is a Big issue with high spring rates and/or high RPM.
So running a Ball/Ball pushrod that oils thru will help eliminate that all together. There are custom made oil thru ball/cup pushrods, but they are $$$$$ and I have budgets to work around, so this is a much less expensive option.

Second is harmonics. A oil filled pushrod will not vibrate as much as a hollow one. Think of it this way- hit a hollow tube with a hammer and what happens? It rings, thats vibration. Now fill that tube with a liquid, say OIL, and hit it. What happens? Thud, no ring, no vibration. Thus a more stable valve train. And it helps to keep the pushrod cooler and the adjuster cooler and well lubed. That translates to less valve lash adjusting because things don't wear out as much.

Does this make sense?
 
Those look just like the SBM lifter, so ours might fit. Man, beware of them, I have seen some bad failures, tiny little rivet holding on the link bars.

That's why I asked you. If things work out, I will give you a call.
 
Mike are you about ready to play with the Gen III Hemi's yet? I have a 6.1 head you can play with.
 
And people thought I was nuts for running hollow pushrods even though they said I didn't need it. Hummmmm
 
I have a 354 Hemi block that is bare now. Would you like me to take pictures? What angles?

Yes Please! Any angles that show how they go in. And could you get a center to center bore dimension as well.

Thanks!
 
Excuse my ignorance but what is an "FBO" box?

HRR688 FBO Ignition Box

All FBO Ignition Electronics carry a Limited 3 Year Warranty

from Date of Purchase to original purchaser (1 Year on Coils)

44KV Out Put

Built In Rev Limiter Externally Adjustable

Start sensor technology to increase Coil Voltage when cranking for quicker starts

No Ballast Resistor

6061 Billet Al. CnC Machined Housing

Bolts in Original Mopar Mounting Holes

Plug & Play to Stock Mopar Electronic Wire Harness

Self Diagnostic System with LED OK Indicator

Triggers Off Any Magnetic Pick-Up Type Distributor

American Made by Skilled American Craftsmen

Boxes Machined in Missouri

Terminals Made in Nevada

Circuitry built in California

Assembled in Florida

Easy Replacement for Ford Duraspark, IH, AMC, Early Nissan or any other 4 pin electronic ignition.
 

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Ok I am going to jump in here. ( sorry late to the game). This is my engine. I started talking to Mike about 2 years ago on this project. I initially called him about purchasing a set of his solid roller lifters because I wanted lifters that would pressure lube the roller. During that time I had an associate that was going to build the engine for me but he had just moved all his machines from one place to another, which I didn't know at the time. Long story short I almost didn't get the heads, block, crank and piston rods back. So anyway I made a comment to Mike about wishing he was closer and he says "I'm only a few hours up the road". I sent him a list of everything I had and he worked up a price. A year and a half went by and I finally get everything lined up. Send him an email he says same quote bring it up. So my dad and I load up the truck on a Saturday and north we head. Mike was patient and educating for me on some different things. Now here is the kicker he was willing to meet us on a Saturday both for drop off and pick up which helped me with not missing work. Anyway this is the first engine I've had "professionally built" and I'm sure some would say why not do it myself. I've done a few and honestly it's something I've kind of always wanted. The overall experience was very good plus I got to spend some time with my dad on the trip, even though it wore him out spending 12 hrs on the road. The only catch is my dad wants to drive the car when it's done. I figure at 73 he's not going to do anything with it that I'm not.
 

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One more picture. By the way I am going to use the FBO box. Would I miss a few HP and couple Ft/lbs of torque? Not really but I figure why not. If it's more efficient on that set up so be it. By the way I plan on weighing this before installing just to see how close it is to a factory style small block.
 

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Well, it idled very well at 900rpm pulling 16inches of vacuum. Kinda quite, nice sound. I ran it with a MSD 6, just like the one he has at home. I also ran it with the new FBO stock replacement ignition box. More on that in a minute.

It ran very well, and after a jet change, we got it into the mid to high 12's on A/F ratio and high 300's to low 400's on BSFC.

I'm impressed with how much vacuum is pulls. That seems to mean it's power brake booster friendly. I'm used to small blocks and that cam seems aggressive. Does it pull so much vacuum because it's a Big Block?

Also, 12's for A/F is great for power but since your customer wanted more street ability would the engine run as well if the A/F ratio was closer to that magic 14.7 mark or more (which a vaccum advance distributor too of course)?

I ask because now I'm thinking of not rebuilding my 360 and going with a Big Block instead as a "to school and back or work and back" daily driver.
 
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