This thread appears to have gone a little of topic. As far as the 8 speed auto goes, it is probably the most significant factor in turning the late model V6 cars from 9+ second 0-60 mph cars into something closer to 7 seconds and almost on par with the old 5 speed auto 5.7 hemi cars. That said the 6.1 with a 5 speed auto will fun 0-60 mph in under 5 seconds with a 5 speed auto in a late model luxury barge. Getting the 8 speed to work will be the biggest challenge, even the old 5 speed is more work than most people care to undertake.