6.4 Hemi Trucks

Totally agree with what you stated Steve.... and I work on them. "BUT".... the 13 newer with DEF system is slowly but surely changing my mind back to believing you can have the best of both worlds with your Cummins equipped Dodge. Hindsite being what it is the emission laden 6.7 trucks were best left to those towing.... heavy, and often. I've lost count of the trucks with unhappy owners dealing with soot issues from using their truck like a car..... and not many of these folks can drop 45K on a new truck just to let it sit. Those that have traded up to the DEF equipped trucks from what I've seen have had zero issues with a regular driving style, great power, and mpg driving empty from 18-21 mpg. The EGR is used way less so regens are cut way back so the oil life has been extended big time! I've had guys that still had 30% eng oil life at 9K miles. The new trucks also have something that should have been in place back in 03 with the intro of the common rail...... TWO fuel filters. Filters are $67 each, and still require changing at 15-17K from what i've seen of the fuel filter minder programmed into the new trucks. A little more out of pocket, but considering the investment ahead of them.... well worth it and overdue. Now back to the original topic..... I'm still interested in how the 6.4 2500 tows a trailer. If we get a used one in I'm going to take one up the pass with my trailer in tow just to see what they are all about. MPG is a moot point when I'm towing.... I just want the job to get done, and my 01 modded CTD only gets about 11-12 towing anyways.