whats with the new vans???

Dodge and Ford milked their old designs for all they could, spending virtually nothing on upgrades. The Ford's suspension dated to the late 60s, the Dodge dates to 71. It was cheaper and easier to drop the old ones and bring the euro designs here.

I personally love B vans, I bought a new 74 B300, drove it til it died in 86 then replaced it with a used 75 B300, parts from the first one lived on in the second one which died in 95, both died from serious rustout.

Between the two vans I have about 300K behind the wheel in those.

I understand the new CAT trucks are a joint venture between CAT and Navistar.