'68 318 to carbed Magnum 5.2: Check my checklist
Some updates; replies at bottom.
One of the party pieces arrived today in the form of 1992/93 (w/late-1991 date codes) Magnum 5.2/5.9 exhaust manifolds. These are the semi-elusive 53006618 and 53006619 large-flange castings:
Note that the Magnum manifolds take notably longer bolts/studs at the ends than the original LA smog logs. Only seller out there is asking $32 for a set of bolts. Ouch:
Quick mockup for amusement:
Melling 72-S2 center sump arrived. Did not want to thread on nicely, but had no burrs. Jut a bit tighter a fit than normal.
The full gasket kit should be here by Wednesday.
Yes. I'm talking about 1978-1980 motors primarily. As far as I know, the last time 360s had something significant optionally is in '83 when the 2bbl option went away and they all got Tquads/Qjets.
So- the "308" head was used by '89-92 360s. They're open chamber, 1.88/1.60, large port, "swirl port" heads with enlarged pushrod tunnels- alternate part #s for them MAY exist. '85-'91 318s had closed chamber, 1.78/1.50, small port, "swirl port" heads with enlarged pushrod tunnels. There's at least one other part # for those, and 302 is usually common to carbed motors which are '85-'89 car and '85-'87 truck engines. The 318's were a weird deal since all the 318s went to roller blocks in '85 but they didn't all get roller cams- 4bbl cop car motors got 360 open chamber heads and flat tappet cams and trucks prior to '88 got the old flat tappet cam though they had the 302s. 360s prior to '89 didn't ever seen to have the roller spider threading.
Makes sense then - and I forgot about the 318 and it's 302 swirl port heads, though I remember reading about their use in the Dippy forums. Looks like I subsequently forgot everything in favor of 360 knowledge.
The enlarged pushrod tunnels and lack of roller cams on the early 318s sounds as if Chrysler was tooling for the TBI evolution of the engine and had to put the project on hold (for more than a few years) at the last minute, while the roller 360s showed up out of nowhere.
Sure explains why roller cam 318 discussions seem much more plentiful. Then again, more vehicles of enthusiast interest seem to have come with them, including the M-bodies. It's not as if there's a hoard of people out there with a fetish for crumbling 1980's B350 camper conversions. Ramchargers, D-series, and W-series trucks also seem to be kept either stock or carbed by their followers too.
No, Magnum 5.9s are fairly rare here but the TBIs 360s are probably rarer. Most people like the TBI blocks since they can build a Magnum or pre-Mag motor with equal ease, by that virtue they're an excellent foundation for a build. Here the TBI 360s usually go for more than Magnum 318s and other LA 360s. Talk of early blocks being higher quality and people not going roller squelches much of the interest in the TBI 360s. I find it interesting myself the lack of widely available information on the later '70s/'80s motors as well.
Well, this is the first 360 of any that I could lay my eyes on, so I have no idea what it would fetch (if anything) in our local market (if there is one, besides myself)
Really strange how the old blocks have a bias for strength; seems to be some talk of the 360-3 being of better metallurgy. Then again, I also see an unusual amount of bias towards using either pre-smog or modern aftermarket parts on many of these builds, seeing that a lot of builds are either restorations or street machine/drag builds.
-Kurt