maybe I should have explained it a little different so you would have chose your words a tad more gentlemanly. so here goes BUD, I needed to get out of the high tens in to the low elevens to say in the bracket class I wanted to race in. I still needed to have all the torque so I didn't want to reduce timing because the start of the race is everything. the cam just didn't produce the results I was looking for because the cam didn't make enough torque.