ohio is not bfe denny, but pretty damn close. lol his seat broke not any welds. the back brace to support the upper part of his carbon fiber seat punched through the seat. i am uncertain if that is what happen to daves nova but i believe it to be so. but by saying both is the same is total speculation at this point. i only know justins for sure did via my eye balls seen the pic of it like everyone else who has internet. i know the fix to there issues as does many others. it isnt the seats fault. its just proper bracing support for materials used. expect the unexpected didnt get looked into at the back of the seat brace and it caused injury. lucky it didnt cause death. i know i would not of approved of the mounts before taking the car home like that. yet i am a safety nazi unlike anything one has seen.