I'm more looking to see where the man hoop comes down and other people's a bodies and how they weld the main hoop to the floor? Where are they welded their back bars eventually too, near the back fender wells? And where's the bar eventually goes to on the front floorboard passing the driver? I do get I'll have to adjust the bar at the hoop higher or lower to go pass between my shoulder and elbow. I read the NHRA rules plenty of times and they don't need to be reposted like I'm stupid , I'm just dumb - I don't know :D a picture is worth a thousand words sometimes. But again no big deal I'll just do the best I can and post what I've done.