Anyone here use Schubeck lifters ?
Wow... is all i can say... i have been around NHRA class racing for a long time..all mopars- usually 360's my family has run stock and primarily super stock, built lots of engines, set records, won national, and division races, qualified #1 at Indy... i was there helping build the cars, engines, go to races, go to tear down... we were focused on super stock when the Shubecks came out...
Whoa there, Mr. Longroof record holder, so if I'm reading this correctly, you're saying you have no direct experience with Schubeck lifters, right? You were focused on super stocks when the Schubecks came out you say? Meaning, like, you were using roller lifters and not Schubecks because your class didn't require an OE type lifter, correct? But you knew what they were though, right? Same here! Wow!
In any event, you probably shouldn't be replying to this thread. Read the rules sir, no one can reply unless they have DIRECT experience with Schubeck lifters and can give the O.P. Mr. Big Inch B1 Duster the answer he wants.
Lookit Mr. Longroof, you've got some impressive credentials but unless you can verify first-hand experience with the no-longer-made Schubeck lifters, you better hi-tail it off this thread.
i see alot of "experts" here whose knowledge base is a 408 stroker that runs high 11's to low 12's..not to impressive in my assesment...
Oh, like the O.P.?
But OK Mr. record holder, humor me. What is impressive in your assessment? Not that I really care, just want to see what you can come up with.
What's impressive to me is when people with a lot knowledge and experience are down to earth and gracious enough to share their knowledge with people who are trying to accomplish something for themselves.
Not everyone who is interested in cars and discusses them with other like-minded folks on an internet forum is a hardcore racer with 30 years experience building record-holding gold like yourself. Why the need for put downs? I don't get the attitude, shows a lack of class. Are you related to the O.P.?
i ran a bracket car for alot of years with lots of stock/superstock technology...
Hey, my car has some stock/superstock technology in it too. Neat!
Did you run Schubecks in it?
as to the valve spring pressure... i always went quicker running more... to a point... dont wipe the lobe out but typically race combinations will pick up with more valve spring than the manufacturer recomends....
I'm thinking you must know a lot more than manufacturers which is pretty great. Don't wipe the lobe - that is AWESOME advice.
Tell me, did you learn all that doing A to B to A tests on the same day, corrected for weather and track conditions? How many sensors were you collecting data from? At what point did the returns diminish? Just want to learn from an expert.
Oooh, but wait, you have no direct experience with Schubeck lifters, right? You were focused on those roller lifter super stock motors, right? Sorry, bud, your expertise is not worth anything unless you have direct experience with Schubeck lifters.
i dont know how the ceramics will do on a street/strip deal..
So again, no particular experience with Schubeck lifters on the street or otherwise, correct? You really should not be replying here even though you continue to comment.
Plus, you are not certain about how ceramics will do on a street/strip deal yet you continue to comment. Bad bad bad. Not the answer the O.P. Francis was looking for.
its an interesting idea, i like it..
What's interesting about it? Why do you like it? Do tell.
i like it more that you are willing to spend the money and time to try something new and not just put a 408 in it with eddy heads and a hydraulic roller and run a pathetic 12.??et...
If you read through the posts, you'd have seen that the guy ALREADY HAS THEM and got them at a bargain-basement price. (read=used)
What he is asking for is for someone to reassure him its OK to put the parts he has together and then tell him he won't crack a lifter and destroy his Lunati cammed 408 from improper spring pressure or some such nonsense. Are you willing to be that guy?
Good luck and post your results
Good luck? Meaning hope you don't trash your Lunati cammed 408?
I'm sorry, sometimes I just gotta have some fun with this stuff and run with it, guys like Mr. Longroof take this **** way too seriously.
Thing is, I don't get the attitude at all. If you're so ******* accomplished and know so much Mr. Longroof, why the need to come on here to this junior-level, wanna-be forum and insult people for having an opinion and offering suggestions to try and help someone? It's like Mike Trout hitting a home run against a little leaguer and then running around the bases taunting the kid on the mound.
Again, do we need to have PhD levels of knowledge and decades of experience to offer suggestions? Is there a secret club you only get in to if you build record-holding stockers? Never seen a group of people behave more like little girls than car guys on the web.
To the O.P. - you asked, fuckhead. What did you expect? Oh yeah sorry, you expected someone to caress your little wee wee and tell you it's going to be OK. Now go grow some real balls and run the stupid lifters. They will probably be fine. You and Mr. Longroof can have a laugh about it after you set some more national records.
As for me, I'm gonna go lap some valves on a 3.8 minivan head and then go rub one out to my dyno sheet.
Have fun. I know I will.