Not to worry i'm not hijacking your thread Anders, i just cant believe how good this concoction is. A good dunk for 2 days in the stinky as heck molasses and water mixture followed by a generous rinse in a trisodium phosphate and water mixture. Rust is all gone. Some of these pieces look like they are fresh stamped. Nice part is since i have no time to really mess with this stuff lately, i just submerge it in the tank, and let it soak. Nothing steel was hit with a wire wheel afterwards either. This is as pulled from the dip tank, rinsed, and dried.