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TXDart said
If no c clips you have bearing retainers on the ends,4" bolt pattern has 4 nuts and 4,5 bolt pattern has 5.they are not pressed in,hope this helps.

yep, i removed the 4 nuts first thing. still can't budge them.

halifaxhops said
And do not take the main caps off of the center section until the axels are out. There is nothing on the pin between the spider gears? Take a second look, there has to be something. I had a few that had them also with the "bolt in" axel bearings.
Oh yeah first in!

main caps are still on. Nothing whatsoever on the pin in the carrier, just a roll pin but the ring gear has to be removed first, I see no way to get the roll pin out other wise.