got the strut rods on a week or so ago, worked out well, just a little rubber preload if any. made them the same length as stockers, w/ a lower mounting point forward on the frame, "running pretty level. I made these just to make myself feel better about the early magnum force tubular front end. they wont do too much, but I feel better about it. very slight dampening effect, and small amount of support for the back lower a arm bolt.--------hopefully.