yep i know. Thats why i'm looking at used boats. Honestly, there's a couple certified hull onlys around here from dealers, some brand new hulls, for less than a grand. I'm tempted to get a hull and build it the way i want but i know i'd never finish it with the other projects I have. I'm not buying anything till next spring, for this year, we'll just borrow my grandfather's 21 footer. it may be 30 years old, but it'll do for now.