I read back through a few posts here. I need to read more I see. We can talk in here as long as it stays under control. There are things that we shouldn't get into here. Stuff like heated arguments about politics or gross sexual stuff (including photos) LOL Sometimes you just need a place where you can blow off a little steam. I know I have been getting frustrated with new inexperienced members lately. Not because they are inexperienced but simply because they are. Now I realize that all of us aren't born with the car gene but many newbies really don't have a clue. There was a guy that asked whether the center section of his 8 3/4 was ok to jack on to lift the car. I just shook my head. If he doesn't know that, he has no business pulling the pumpkin and installing a sure grip. Now I know they don't know that's why they are asking but I come from the school that you read and learn before I ask silly questions. If you guys get out of hand here I will step in (as a moderator and as the thread originator) and ask you tone it down. We as moderators have talked about the coffee shop thread and how it has taken on a chat room life of it's own and because I opened this shop I have a responsibility to keeping control here. You guys are great and I enjoy the banter. Hell a bunch of you have gotten together for lift day and personally know each other. I hope I can travel east sometime and see you all. Hey guys, keep it fun! (sorry for the long rant)