I know they did. Just have 0 patience for the chest thumping faithful. If I can figure out how to build a web site, I use Ipage for an email server, I may go that route. To me it is extremely disrespectful to muck up some ones build thread just because they don't like it. I don't like the odd colors...the generic butt stripes and various other things that the purists use...but you don't see me being disrespectful and talking sh.t on their threads...