I hear ya... I worked my way up and was a maintenance manager for many years. New owners/management pushed me out. With no degree, very difficult to get in anywhere at management level. Got in with a co from CA starting new in our area that was supposed to grow into a management spot. Even though we were making big $ for them, they shut it down after 3 years. To even get in the door as a mechanic, I am prob going to take a big step back in pay and likely end up on a night shift. :BangHead: