Is this to much cam

You are correct there's no question about it here I am not arguing that new Springs and new stuff is going to be way Superior. And yes you are completely correct when I was grasping about the retainers LOL I hope you do read this and you find out that you're right you're right you're right lol like I said I was just in a frisky mood last night I guess and said don't change the Springs to get everybody going crazy. You'll find through my threads and you probably know I'm not too good at spending my own money let alone cyber spending anybody else's and if I had to be passive aggressive which is one of my favorites I would say yes $50 and springs and don't forget you added the other $50 someone has to order to get the free shipping LOL okay now I'm done and back to you being correct new Springs will create more horsepower Agreed 100% And you know I can't resist a good discussion never an argument...

Tired springs + higher RPM = float

Simple as that.

So your tired springs may control stuff to 4500 rpm and a new set might hold them to 5200, which one is going to have more usable power if needed. Plenty of articles and test showing exactly that out there. The 340 dyno derby is one of them where the engine made a bunch more power with a valve spring change on a comp xe268 from stock 340 springs. Personal experience where there is no data to support an A-B test is nothing more than, it worked for me. Was it optimal, probably not. Plenty of people penny pinch and have decent results. I do it myself, just not in the valvetrain/springs. Maybe the next cam can use the new springs too, gosh what a concept.

Breaking a retainer, you grasping at straws? LOL I won't make what I'd like to comment about that statement with an OEM 340 spring. Keep at it because sometimes it's better to put the shovel down and step away from the hole. :)

If 50 bucks breaks the bank on a cam change or overall build, maybe some thought needs to be placed on where it's best to spend any money at all.

Don't worry, after this, I won't see your response... :) It's where you should have stayed from the as time.

Have at it.