what's REALLY F-ed up - - - I was just thinking about this crap this morning... I heard an ad about the $ you save owning your vehicle outright (no payments) and maintaining it - - I thought "huh, this old thing is doing ok by me.. ever since I put some $$ into it last year it's been just fuel and oil..." -- "not bad, not bad at all" - - now I'm getting nervous!!! :lol: