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dukeboy_318 said
Black Hawk helicopter with 5 crew members on board crashes off Hawaii, Coast Guard says

man military aviation taking a pounding lately

Old equipment? I see a lot of private plane crashes. Most are due to "lost power" or "engine stalled". Many are 20-30+ years old. If our old cars stall we steer towards the shoulder. If a plane stalls, they fall out of the air.