Doug's headers fittment

I am well aware of tire sizes, being in the business for a long time. Not everybody likes short sidewalls. Every time this comes up, you find it necessary to lambaste stock height tires and stock ride heights as if they are the plague. People have different opinions and tastes. Not all the same as you.

We have a moderator and a couple of other members here who run the Summit style headers on their cars sitting at stock ride heights with stock height tires with zero scraping issues.

How do you think it makes people feel when someone like you keeps running down those type cars.....and you are doing that. Do you think they will be compelled to share their builds? Or do you think they will just forget it? Why not just not respond unless it's something positive? People who are newbies deserve every answer from every angle.

Not everyone is fortunate enough to afford Dougs or TTIs.

No Rob, apparently you aren't aware. "low profile" literally means a tire with an aspect ratio of less than 50. That's not my definition, that's the definition. So, you used the term incorrectly. You can't even BUY low profile tires for 14" rims, which was the stock rim size on most of these cars. Yes, I tried to be funny pointing it out. Mostly at your expense. Sorry that didn't come across as funny.

As far as the rest of the nonsense, you post negatively about lowered cars, cars with low profile tires, and cars with larger diameter rims all the time. You did it right in this thread. Which is why you think I constantly bash stock cars, because every time you post BS about pro-touring builds I follow it up by going after stock cars to make your BS obvious. But until I tried to poke some fun at you, I hadn't said one negative thing in this thread. I help plenty of people on this site figure out what size tires will fit their 14" and 15" rims, what backspaces will work for 14" and 15" rims, etc. And I skip a whole heck of a lot of threads that are about stock cars. My whole inbox is full of tire and rim questions, and quite a few of them are for 15" rims and stock-ish sized tires. I answer those just like I answer ones about 18" rims and tires. Newbies and regulars alike. Yes, I bash on some hockey puck tires. But normally only when someone asks, or someone like you makes a negative comment about running larger diameter wheels or modern tires. I have my moments, but, so do you.

As for the headers, I never said the Flowtechs would scrape on a car at stock ride height. Never addressed it at all. I said they had less clearance, and I explained why having a whole length of pipe at a low clearance was worse than having just a header flange at the same height. That's it. And that's true. The Flowtechs do hang lower, and they have more exhaust pipe at lower clearances. But I didn't tell anyone not to run Flowtechs, or not to run at the stock ride height. I didn't link all the threads that have people saying how they bashed their flowtechs or similarly designed below-the-steering-link headers flat on speed bumps. I didn't tell anyone to lower their car, run low profile tires, or big wheels. I just said the Doug's had better ground clearance, and they DO. I didn't say one negative thing about Flowtechs, I just pointed out some drawbacks that they really do have. And I drive a lowered car, so, believe me I know what gets caught on speed bumps.

As for bashing other people's builds, don't make me do a search and post all the negative things you've said about pro-touring style builds. Because you have a lot of posts. And a lot of them bash things you don't like, they are negative, and a lot of them are downright discouraging. I know. So if you want to guilt me about causing people to not post their builds, you better delete a few thousand posts of yours. Because if I let your BS bother me, I would never have posted anything about my car on this site. So if the pot is done calling the kettle black, maybe we can move on with this thread.