Is there an actual advantage to BBP vs SBP?

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barbee6043 said:
If I keep my SBP I will NEVER be able to run and get those stupid 17-20 inch wheels and those bandaid tires!!!! wow
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yeah, because all the wheels in BBP come in 17-20"

Apparently all the tires that come on 17-20" are low pros too?

Try to learn math and product availability. In addition realize that not everyone has the same taste or closed mind you seem to have.

These looks like bandaids to you? They are 18's.

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Now while this may not be your flavor, it's a pretty damn nice ride.

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That Chevelle has HotWheels. I like it.
I like Big and Littles, so I have sbp 14 x 7.5s up front and lbp15 x 10s out back. I don't carry a spare. I am never more than an hour from home,and the tow-truck is only a phone call away. But I must tell you, in over 125,000 miles and on the road since 99, I have only ever had 1 flat,and that was 3 miles from home.
I don't have a back seat either.
I like LBPs on the rear, cuz when I slide into a curb,(used to happen often) I can still drive it home. The studs are still all holding.
I very rarely slide into curbs with the front end. It more or less goes where it's pointed. But when it has happened,I took them head on at the last moment. It's a bit rough getting up there, but I could still drive it home. My seats have been lowered for a reason,lol
And I can tell you that if you jump your old Cuda and the front gets to be about a foot or a lil more off the ground, don't worry about it, the deepsump oilpan will break your fall,lol. The studs will still be there. But you will have some welding to do.And then you will build a skid-plate for next time.
 
roccodart440 said:
yeah, because all the wheels in BBP come in 17-20"

Apparently all the tires that come on 17-20" are low pros too?

Try to learn math and product availability. In addition realize that not everyone has the same taste or closed mind you seem to have.

These looks like bandaids to you? They are 18's.

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Now while this may not be your flavor, it's a pretty damn nice ride.

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Ha! Yes math!! That Chevelle looks to have what18=20 inch rims and75 series tires?? It is a fact we all do not share the same taste! and that's fine with me. Bandaid tires, Just not my taste. Product availability ie choice of tire size and companies. You are right. 15 inch tire selection is terrible. I can hardly find anything rated to run over 150 MPH.....
For instance my '95 Dodge Ram 3500 Cummins, I bought it new. Came with itty biddy 16 inch rims!!!!! Wow it looks stupid!!!!! IN todays world of bigger wheels/tires, and $60,000 1 tons. ??? Good thing I am old and can do math. I know I can never afford a new one at $70,000 , but hey, it has those BIGGER wheel!!!! ha.... Hardly an choice of 16 inch tires. Have to wonder how I can still pull that 32 Ft gooseneck stock trailer!??????????
 
Tire and wheel selection. Those were the primary driving factors of my choice.
I went with 18x265x35.
I may bee able to get 275s on it?

I didn't want to deal with custom one off wheels. Since I changed the rear end to 8.75 and had the choice, it was a no brainer. And, I'm replacing the front end anyways.

I wanted to go 16s but they present problems I don't want to deal with. I agree with those that don't like the look of the small sidewall, I don't either.

To avoid the clearance issues on the front I went with 18s. To take advantage of tire selection, 18s.

The biggest advantage is wheel availability and cost.

I have no doubt the larger set up is stronger, but that wasn't my main concern, I think the sbp is just fine. Wheel selection!
 
The larger bolt circle the pattern is, the stronger it is. This of course is splitting hairs on most street cars, but with higher power street and or race cars, the bigger bolt pattern is the way to go.

But as whitepunkonnitro correctly pointed out, the SBP is lighter, so if weight is an issue and you are not running a boat load of power, the SBP will suffice.
 
Race cars dont have spare tires lol

I think it would be wise to do the axle conversion if that will wirk with your wheel setup, however certain applications leaving the rear sbp actually helps with wheel and or tire choice. For example my front is lbp and rear is sbp. With one inch spacers on the rear the lbp 15x7 rallye wheels fit perfect with a 275 tire. I think it would be dependant on wheel tire setup as to which way would be best
 
What is the point you guys are making here? I may try to get some space saver spares for travel. I do not want to burn up the locker clutches. I am running 18 in read and 16 in the front.


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Best bet is to have hagerty roadside assistance or AAA. Its almost impossible to have a spare to fit both front and rear unless you have the same size all the way around, may be possible to get a tire thats in between the height of the rear and height of the front but then again unless you got a open diff any slight variance in tire dia on the back can cause some serious problems with a posi unit
 
I will pile on to the "best" answer of, "Your wheel and tire choices will be a zillion times better. I too did a front disc brake conversion that gave me the SBP vs BBP choice. You can either EASILY buy two new BBP axles that are ready to install, or you can have your current axles re-drilled for BBP. In my humble opinion, it REALLY boils down to that.
 
harrisonm said:
I will pile on to the "best" answer of, "Your wheel and tire choices will be a zillion times better. I too did a front disc brake conversion that gave me the SBP vs BBP choice. You can either EASILY buy two new BBP axles that are ready to install, or you can have your current axles re-drilled for BBP. In my humble opinion, it REALLY boils down to that.
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I thought the center register was a different size between the two?
 
I've never had an issue with the center register on an aftermarket wheel. Most of them, if not all are not hubcentric. On factory wheels you may have to occasionally have them opened up, however I've never used a factory wheel on an Abody so I can't say for sure. On my Volvo I bought hubcentric adapters and ran corvette wheels so again the size of the factory register really didn't matter.
 
Summit sells a 15 x 6 to 10 in a 5 x4" pattern. No need to change to bbp.
 
I get around just fine with sbp wheels and tires! Of course, I like the dog dish look!!! And, my tire guy is easily able to find tires in 14", so no problem there!!

In the real world, even 15" tires are hard to find!!

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Great cars! How old are those Kelly and Dayton tires?
Hadn't seen them in my area in years.
Have you tried replacing those sizes?
 
roccodart440 said:
yeah, because all the wheels in BBP come in 17-20"

Apparently all the tires that come on 17-20" are low pros too?

Try to learn math and product availability. In addition realize that not everyone has the same taste or closed mind you seem to have.

These looks like bandaids to you? They are 18's.

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Now while this may not be your flavor, it's a pretty damn nice ride.

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Where did you get he info for the 6.1 hemi swap? Nice ride!
 
If you are old school like me, don't bother switching to BBP. I'm currently running a black steel wheel in the back and centerline skinnies up front but now changing to 15 inch steel wheels all around.

Don't let the BBP being "stronger" bother you unless you are building some sort of 9 second beast. The pic in my avatar shows my car pulling the front wheels off the ground. I've run hundreds and hundreds of 1/8th and 1/4 mile passes on my stock 8 3/4 rear with the stock SBP axles. Oh this is also on the "weak" 741 center section
 
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