Ok I will start at the top, I simply could not talk Fred into painting his rig Sublime. I showed wife the "it all started with an LS swap picture" some background here. Our entire family is military, generations above and below. including wife who was a crew chief on a F something or other for the Airforce, I think it is a plane maybe. Hah! Anyway she was laughing at the pix of the LS swap individual, then I explained it was from a Marine at which point she melted down with what can only be described as hyena laughter. So in summary Fred drank all my booze, my highly trained 100 pound Shepard dog betrayed me and was eating out of Fred's hand. And I now have to dispel the urban myth about me putting an LS in my Demon. On the plus side the apple did not fall far from the tree. Fred's designated driver (his son) showed up in a very cool Mopar I had never seen or heard of. A Fiat/Mopar sports car rig. All in all a pretty good day.