adriver
Blazing Apostle
Guess where he is thinking about putting these.
USPS Fail
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As I’ve said many times, selling parts online is the easy part, packing and shipping the items is the real job. You have to pack stuff like it’s going into a war zone. I probably have over 300 boxes on hand, most triple wall, and I use carpet tubes to send straight trim. I also petition my locals in the spring to alert me if they’re throwing away their swimming pool solar covers, which are just 30’x30’ sheets of industrial bubble wrap. If I had to buy all of the materials to ship items, I would be out of business. Most delicate items, I use the “box in box” method, and line the outside box with 2” sheets of styrofoam that I purchase from HD, to satisfy the shippers insurance requirements of a minimum of 2” of packing around the item. I have about a 99% success rate, the only time I’ve had trim show up bent was to Hawaii, and that box was mangled beyond recognition. I had to buy another complete car to resend that trim to the buyer, even though it was not my obligation to replace the damaged trim!
Packing is a beotch, but the most important part of selling items online.
Packing is a beotch, but the most important part of selling items online.
bluefish
mopar dave
UPS being the better of the two. When i get damage, its always FEDEX. USPS tracking sucks. It just plain doesn't track correctly.
67Dart273
Well-Known Member
Stop playing the idiot. SOMEBODY is paying for all the home carriers out there wandering around in shorts, driving the funny little trucks. Where do you think that money comes from? You don't think???? that if we just FIRED ALL THE CARRIERS that the PO costs would go down?? Get real here.
"When did I get a bill?" WHEN I PAID MONEY FOR THEM TO DELIVER THAT PACKAGE WITH MY ADDRESS ON THE FRONT. I did not give the shipper the POST OFFICE address. I gave them MY address. That constitutes a CONTRACT. "I am paying you from X to Y"
I ALSO did not specify that the stuff should be broken, missing, mangled beyond believe, wet, or anything else. This is IMPLIED in any business deal which is what this IS..............
I'm glad I wasn't one of YOUR customers...........I hate to think what your attitude must be/ have been towards your PAYING customers.
cdnEHbody
Well-Known Member
Same **** with canada post. We cant find your parcel.
Well, its an ar-15 reciever...im sure the rcmp will want to talk to you about it. Sure found it fast after that.
Or "no one was home" Funny, my nest cam showed him leave the notice and not even see if i was home.
Or my nice cz455 22lr riding around with dhl for 3 days....if no one is home after the second delivery attempt on a weekday....leave me a slip and ill pick it up from the depot ya moron. Then the lady at the desk " you want it left here?" no...i want it to ride around for another 3 days in his truck. Good god...
Well, its an ar-15 reciever...im sure the rcmp will want to talk to you about it. Sure found it fast after that.
Or "no one was home" Funny, my nest cam showed him leave the notice and not even see if i was home.
Or my nice cz455 22lr riding around with dhl for 3 days....if no one is home after the second delivery attempt on a weekday....leave me a slip and ill pick it up from the depot ya moron. Then the lady at the desk " you want it left here?" no...i want it to ride around for another 3 days in his truck. Good god...
gunbunny
Well-Known Member
Look, I'm not trying to upset you. I'm trying to make you understand how the post office views things.
There is not law that states the post office must deliver to your home address .
Postage you pay is from p/o A to p/o B. When you ship a package, you go to the p/o, the clerk calculates the rate from that zip code to the zip code you ship to. Not address to address. That home address doesn't matter until the mail gets to the intended P/O. So, yes you did provide the P/O address.
When you handle millions of pieces of mail hourly, the law of averages says something is going to get broken. The more you ship, the higher those odds are. It's just an unfortunate fact.
As for your statement that you paid money for them to deliver to your address, the P/O position is that you didn't. The shipper paid that money. You may have paid the shipper, but didn't pay the P/O. That's why the shipper must file insurance claims and not the receiver.
You certainly didn't pay for all the junk and political mail you get.
A few years ago the P/O was actually considering doing away with a large number of carriers. Remember when the talk of going to a 5 or 3-day delevery was in the news.
The plan was to eliminate carriers and expand P/O boxes in the P/O. People would have to come to the P/O to pick up their mail. Just like it used to be once upon a time. If you had a package, you better come when the P/O was open.
I was one of the old school carriers, I had a regular route, I took care of my customers. When they started all of the reduction in service talk, I was offered a early retirement. I took it. Since I retired, there hasn't been a regular carrier on my route since. No one ever lasts more than a few months at the most. I ran into one of my old customers the other day. She told me how much she missed me. That there are a lot of days she doesn't get her mail until 6:30 when I would at her house by 1:15 at the latest.
But the things I'm telling you are true, feel free to research it. The reality of it is, the P/O is not a nice place to work, just ask Inkjunkie. I understand you have a perceived expectation of the P/O, but your starting to see that the P/O has a minimum standard that they must abide by, and it's headed that way.
I'm not defending them, in fact, I agree they should step up their game. But as it is, things already exceed the minimum that they are required to do by law. That is to have a P/O available within reasonable hours.
gunbunny
Well-Known Member
On paper, yes. But this is due to a couple of factors.
1. When Congress submits a budget, the funds come from two major sources. A. IRS and B USPS. The $ amount is based on the last year's revenue. A couple of years ago Congress projected that the USPS would generate a profit of $80 Billion. They fell short of that mark and only generated $62 Billion. When the P&L report came out, it was reported that the USPS took a $16 Billion loss. So on paper, yes they lost $. But in reality, they still generated $62 Billion.
2. The 2006 Congressional mandate to pre-fund retiree health benefits for 75 years. This is a $50B a year that the post office is required to pay. This mandate is funding retirement payments for people who aren't even born yet. So, if not for the $50B mandate, the P/O would have been $12B to the good a few years ago.
All of these issues were created by Congress.
In an attempt to meet the goals set by Congress, the P/O has offered retirement packages, that I took BTW, to employees who fell into certain criteria. They then replaced those employees with less expensive people. Now you get what you got, crap service.
So, to answer your question, from an accounting perspective, yes they have lost money. Only because they didn't meet a projected profit margin.
From a banking standpoint, the P/O is a profitable branch of the government. They are able to cover costs and generate an annual profit.
If they ever truly go into the red, then they would have to tap into the tax base.
Another thing to understand is, that when the P/O fails to hit those goals, those $ are still spent. The burden falls to the IRS and ultimately is added to the National Debt figure. So the P/O takes the blame as costing taxpayers money. Which is how most people get the impression that the P/O is tax funded.
I've been on the receiving end of a cosgig package. He does great work!!
And you see folks, that is the difference between a government agency running a business, and a business running itself. The govt will beg, steal and borrow from branches like the PO, run it into the ground, cut the employees and benefits to the bone, run at a loss to pilfer the coffers of a viable agency, to pad the pockets of the govt system, while Fedex and UPS are an independent business that survive on profits, and cost cutting measures like using the PO to ship their packages. So who wins here? Not the consumer, as Gun has already stated, of course it’s the politicians who refuse to cost cut their own pockets! All in the name of liberty!!
grimreaper
Cross Member
I mailed some main caps to a shop 150 miles from me taped together and packed in some styrofoam in a flat rate box. When I heard nothing from the shop I called to see how they worked out and he told me he never got them. So, I went to USPS and filed a claim. Several weeks later I got a bag from the postal service in Minneapolis, MN. The note with the package said that my package was undeliverable because of "illegible recipient address". Well, inside the package were the four main caps tightly taped together and the remains of a box which had obviously been run over in the mud. There were clearly visible tread marks in the mud left on the smashed box. The corner with the shipping address was completely ripped off. Good thing I had attached a return address label and that portion of the box survived or I would never have seen my Pro-gram caps again!
@gunbunny thanks for the info! Your point#1 explains it very well, and shows me again just how they twist words for their benefit.
Point #2. I looked into a career in the USPS after I retired from the Air Force. But once I learned how things were being run, l decided against it. It's funny how no matter where, car parts or personnel, you really do get what you pay for!
Point #2. I looked into a career in the USPS after I retired from the Air Force. But once I learned how things were being run, l decided against it. It's funny how no matter where, car parts or personnel, you really do get what you pay for!
USPS has always been able to tell me at exactly which station my package was lost! Had them drop of $10,000 worth of my diamonds at the McDonalds up the street and forget to get a signature. Fortunately the manager at Mcdonalds was upright.
DrCharles
Well-Known Member
USPS can't even tell me that... I sent my passport in for renewal (Priority Mail with tracking) and it was last seen leaving Springfield, MO on the way to Philly. Well, it never showed up and I ended up paying big bucks for an expediting service as time was short by then.
FOUR MONTHS later, long after my trip, I got a call from a postmaster in Wheeler, IN (wherever that is) telling me they have my envelope, heavily damaged. They actually did mail it back to me and it arrived promptly, now that it was completely useless. Sigh.
FOUR MONTHS later, long after my trip, I got a call from a postmaster in Wheeler, IN (wherever that is) telling me they have my envelope, heavily damaged. They actually did mail it back to me and it arrived promptly, now that it was completely useless. Sigh.
gunbunny
Well-Known Member
Which is the reason I went to the State Dept and dealt with the hassle of parking and the security check.
To be honest the P/O that could have processed a passport was still 3.6 miles further than the Fed Bldg.
I'm just still shaking my head over the fact that they took the $35 processing fee as cash, but the $110 had to be money order.
Whatever, it's done now.
gunbunny
Well-Known Member
I went to work for the P/O shortly after I MRB'd from the Army. I was a PTF (sub) at first then a route opened and I was made regular.
The P/O isn't a pleasant place to work at all. There is a very real reason why postal workers were going in killing Post Masters and supervisors. I understood it, didn't make it right, but I understood.
DrCharles
Well-Known Member
I considered it, except Little Rock is the closest and it's a 4 hr drive (each way).
Sometimes living in a remote rural area is a disadvantage - but not that often ;)
itsdiz
Member
Not to change the subject, but I also have a 1970
Dart and I need the windshield wiper mechanisms. Would this person happen to have any? Hope the claim comes out positive, isn't that why we insure packages?
Dart and I need the windshield wiper mechanisms. Would this person happen to have any? Hope the claim comes out positive, isn't that why we insure packages?
I feel your pain PlumKrazee70 , I do not use usps , it’s either missing or damaged
If its not insured they will psy out $50
Mopar-Mitch
Well-Known Member
I have drove 600 miles 1 way to pick up parts just because I don't trust shipping, I've had bad experiences with UPS, Fed-ex, and USPS.
I shipped a steering gear via UPS. When the guy asked me what was inside, I told him car parts. Then he went into this long inquisition about if there were any fluids inside, combustible materials, dangerous chemicals, blah, blah, blah. He said that UPS will yank his franchise if he is found to be shipping flammable liquids; something to do with homeland security regulations, blah, blah, blah. I'm no terrorist. Now, I just tell them the box contains books.
dart_68
Well-Known Member
Just as an FYI...those questions are official questions to the point that giving false answers is a federal offense. Those questions are asked not because you might be a terrorist but because there are some things that need special handling so they don't pose a danger to the people who handle them or the transportation units (plane, truck, etc.).
I've had the best luck shipping USPS. Now I found out a strange policy the PO has. If you ship an item that was damaged by them, and you paid for the additional insurance, ( in this case a 71 Dart grill). The PO originally denied my claim, but after appealing the decision, they agreed to pay my claim. Minus the postage. Come to find out the only time they will cover postage is if they loose your package?, not if it is damaged. By the way I packaged it in a double box and also I used foam and bag packaging. Sold it to a member here and I refunded him a agreed upon amount, before I put a claim in. When USPS paid the claim I sent him the balance of what he paid me.
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