Yeah. I have always just bought new or reman'd but no one local stocks these calipers and rockauto, i'd have to ship the old ones in for core charges, not sure how that works exactly. Meanwhile, I can get the rebuild kits for 1/4 of the price and now core. The core charge is more than the calipers themselves but I think i have to pay shipping on top of that. plus the polara is about learning new things. Which is why I am converting BACK to points.