I aint bashing glocks, I took a cleet armed course for the h--- of it, At the range we fired clock 9mm and s/w 9 mm, all were well /really well used. I fired 100% w/ both of them the first day at the range, I liked the s/w best. The second day , I woke up w/ a neck headache , any of u had a broken neck knows about that, any way I fired 80% w/ both guns that day, also grabbed the wrong pair of glasses that second morning . I still like the S/W/ M-P the best --------